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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-06-02 06:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #4897 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4897 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2020-06-02 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with you there. Great image design, too!

(Anonymous) 2020-06-02 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Amen
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[personal profile] icecheetah 2020-06-02 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
There seems to be a stage a lot of people go through where darker seems like it's automatically better, and leads to 'grimdark'. But the truth is that there always needs to be some light and sometimes a sweet uplifting story can be perfect.


So yeah I agree with you fully and probably more people than you think do.

Edit: though 'depressing' might not always be realistic either. And realism itself is not inherently bad or good, how important it is depends.
Edited 2020-06-02 23:19 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2020-06-02 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Same, OP, same.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-02 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Me neither. But I do think the tone should fit the story, if that makes any sense. I'm not a huge fan of grimdark, especially when it just seems gratuitous.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-02 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I prefer dark fiction, but I kind of hate cynical fiction.

Also, I do agree that fiction doesn't have to be dark to be well-written or meaningful. And, in fact, fiction that is nothing but dark, dark, dark relentlessly can often end up feeling meaningless and bland.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-02 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
In the willow-meads of Tasarinan I walked in the spring...

Not that Tolkien can't be depressing, but there's always hope and beauty as well.

There's only so much realism I want in my fiction.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-02 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
For movies, action is my favorite genre, but if the violence and explosions and stunts were too realistic (and there were the actual depressing and grim consequences for all of them), I think it would be my least favorite.

Re: There's only so much realism I want in my fiction.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-02 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean at the end of the day, realism is as much a literary affect as anything else.
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[personal profile] sabotabby 2020-06-03 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed. Nothing wrong with dark if it's done well but quite often it's used to cover up a shallowness in storytelling.
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[personal profile] segnung 2020-06-03 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Same.

I loved depressing endings when I was younger, particularly tragic romances. While quite a few of my favorite films end that way, I don't purposely seek them out like I used to.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2020-06-03 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
I agree. Sometimes dark is good. But what is important is a good story. Happy, hopeful can be as good as anything "realistic."
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2020-06-03 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
THIS. Most fic is much, much more appealing to me if it doesn't do grim, depressing, real-world stuff.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2020-06-03 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
is this about what is prestigious writing? because there are plenty of comedies i think have acclaimed writing, but even comedies sometimes get more prestige because they have a ~realistic~ tone.


idk personally i find good comedy, and good tragedy very hard to to write satisfyingly.
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[personal profile] wannabe_influential 2020-06-03 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
I used to love depressing stories in my mid to late teens because I was super depressed and had a bad home life, so I felt vindicated when I read/watched depressing stuff because it wasn't 'fake' like everything else.

Now I'm older and I am. So. DONE. With relentlessly dark, depressing media. Please, give me characters having moments where they are allowed to be happy and grow as people and have satisfying conclusions to their stories with no last-minute 'shocking' twists. Please. If I want to watch stories about good people being screwed over for no reason and bad people escaping consequences for hurting other, I'll watch the news.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-03 05:49 am (UTC)(link)
There's a lot of media I've actively avoided because it was more interested in being grimdark edgy than actually interesting. I don't need that in my life, thanks, I don't care how pretty the main characters are when they suffer.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-03 08:09 am (UTC)(link)
I disagree with the idea that something depressing is by default realistic or that for something to be realistic it must be depressing, and people who hold that it also is automatically good writing tend to take those views to ridiculous extremes.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-03 11:12 am (UTC)(link)
Depends what you mean. Like if something is historical or even in universe then I absolutely want it to be accurate to it's canon, but in technical terms if everyone can be interpreted by fandom to be mopey and miserable the entire time then I just don't see the point.
Ehh, basically I guess I disagree then? Since I hate it when everything has to be seen as a modern AU, or OOC-ly uppity for the sake of no hardship/drama/anything bad happening ever... Then again, I'm assuming you mean fanfiction. Otherwise all I'd recommend is original fiction, since you can have all the fantasy fun that you want without having to care about actually interpreting a character in any rational way.