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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-12-02 05:04 pm

[ SECRET POST #697 ]


⌈ Secret Post #697 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Re: 144

(Anonymous) 2008-12-02 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, all Jared did was speak somewhat lightly of the fact that Sam might be fucking a demon because at that point, no one knew for sure yet so he was dancing around the topic rather than revealing anything for certain. And then people jumped all over him for condoning rape because OMG! Sam is obviously raping someone. Except this turned out not to be true in the first place anyway.

This is what I mean about jumping to conclusions. And then they demanded he issue an apology. It's batshit crazy.

Also? Take a look at [livejournal.com profile] supernatural_tv and the episode reaction posts. And the episode review posts. Hell, even over at [livejournal.com profile] capslock_spn which as far from Srs Bizniz as possible, people were making fun of the episode left and right without getting into trouble. I assure you, intelligent discussion and criticism of the show is perfectly acceptable on LJ. So is poking fun at the obvious issues it has. It's the sheer freaking out that's just disturbing and insane.

Re: 144

(Anonymous) 2008-12-02 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
you know, bolding doesn't make you look overly stable, either.

Except this turned out not to be true in the first place anyway.

Its all a matter of interpretation. A dissenting viewpoint (which I have, and you apparently aren't going to let me have - which was my point in the first place) is that since Ruby's body can't give consent, its still rape. Whether the body's soul is there or not is irrelevant to people like me that feel that it is a desecration of the human body to have a demon ride around in it, and for Sam to fuck that body. Not everyone's going to agree with you that its not rape, and yelling at them won't change their minds.

I still think he should have phrased his words differently, but w/e, you have your thoughts and I have mine. And that's okay. Just stop demanding that I agree with you.

intelligent discussion and criticism of the show is perfectly acceptable on LJ.

Not that I've seen. I've seen a lot of lj-ers attempt to eviscerate an opposing view. Just as you are, here, by saying that its "batshit insane." That does not foster discussion.

Re: 144

(Anonymous) 2008-12-02 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, I think my point about the difference between overreacting and disagreeing got lost in here somewhere.

I don't care if you disagree. I'm not calling you, specifically, insane because you're not overreacting. But there are people who are. There's a difference between having a problem with what Jared says and going all out and dogpiling him to issue an apology. Shouldn't there be a line drawn as to how far someone takes something?

Unless you're going to call that a dissenting view, too, in which case we've moved past dissenting views on the fandom issues itself and onto the issues regarding how fandom should handle things they don't agree with. Which is a different matter entirely and not what I began talking about.

Re: 144

(Anonymous) 2008-12-03 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
the difference between overreacting and disagreeing is a subjective line. and is typically influenced by the efficacy one feels towards/about a particular situation.

i think the "omg, squee, Sam was so hot fucking a demon" is WAY overreacting because the whole thing turned my stomach to the nth degree. but i also have the wherewithal to recognize that is my interpretation, and to the person saying it - and to others that agree with it - its not overreacting at all.

so rather than call people "batshit insane" for their words, it might be better to either walk away from them or consider that their emotional involvement does not equal yours in a given situation.

Re: 144

[identity profile] fromyourashes.livejournal.com 2008-12-02 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
And then they demanded he issue an apology. It's batshit crazy.

That's exactly my point. THANK YOU. (um, this is not actually for you, but for the other anon.)