[ SECRET POST #4900 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4900 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.
[watamote]



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02.
[artemis fowl]


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03. [SPOILERS for Star Trek Discovery]



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04. [SPOILERS for Legend of the White Snake]



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05. [SPOILERS for Crazy Rich Asians trilogy]



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06. [SPOILERS for The Untamed]



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07. [WARNING for possible discussion of rape]




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08. [WARNING for homophobia]



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09. [WARNING for discussion of rape]



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10. [WARNING for discussion of underage sex]



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11. [WARNING for discussion of bullying/abuse]

[Sally Face]


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12. [WARNING for weight loss discussion (OP warned just in case)]



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13. [WARNING for discussion of vore/incest/necrophilia?]






















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #701.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

There was a Tower of God type novel (I don't remember the title) where a powerful character either appeared briefly or was mentioned - then a 3-4 page discussion of what non-binary meant which included instructions on how to be respectful. The character did not appear in the rest of the novel. (I kept waiting for her/him to pop back up ...)

WWW trilogy by Robert J Sawyer features a Sarah Palin-ish character that the author rants about at length. It has nothing to do the rest of the book. You can even check the reviews (book 2 or 3). People talk about it.

I do not keep lists of books I don't like, so this is based on memory.

[(Anonymous)]

So again, you were "forced" (by your own inability to just skim ahead)to dedicate about 1.8% of your reading experience to a topic you had no interest in. I weep for you.

Seriously, do you realize how pathetic you sound when you complain about 3 pages of off-topic dialogue in a novel?

[(Anonymous)]

Did I say it was forced?

Inserting a random political talking point into a novel that isn't about that is ... BAD WRITING.

Also, so to be clear, you're saying that if there was a story where a character stopped in the middle of a battle to save the planet from aliens to think about being a lesbian, that would be good writing to you? Because I notice a lot of people here tried to say 'That doesn't happen' and now it's 'it doesn't matter'.

Which it really doesn't. But it is annoying as all get out to get that kind of thing when you're trying to enjoy yourself in a story, be that a book or a game. And then you go, "Man, that was weird and dumb. Why was that in there?" And then people like you can only say, "What a bigot!"

And that's how you get Gamergate. :*

[(Anonymous)]

My dude, bad writing exists, and it's not the fault of LGBT characters. There's PLENTY of bad writing about straight cos people too, I promise.

[(Anonymous)]

No, what everyone who plays games is trying to tell you (because they’re idiots who can’t recognize the trolly troll) is that most games pepper in random things like this, but for some reason people like you only find it offensive when it has to do with LGBT stuff. It’s funny how no one makes entire platforms to complain about “irrelevant” thoughts and conversations when soldier dude stops to wonder if his girlfriend’s cheating on him with his army buddy or if that one bar in Sidequestland still makes that drink he likes, but someone wonders if they’re a lesbian and that’s weird and dumb.

[(Anonymous)]

No, you get GamerGate because men are whiny little pissants who throw an absolute fit when something isn't catered to them.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

This is just something that bad writers do that has nothing to do with particular political ideologies. This doesn't prove anything. I am absolutely certain that you could find didactic, preachy writers justifying almost any ideological position. Especially in SFF! It's a well-known tradition (to be honest, Robert J Sawyer is actually someone I particularly hate in this regard, I think he's a hack - not so much on politics but on religion).

On the other hand, it seems that the vast majority of time when people complaining about Forced Diversity In Video Games, it's nothing close to this level. It's the people complaining because a character looks a certain way, or is a certain sexuality, or is a woman, or is portrayed a certain way. That's what people claim is the agenda to force things down their throats.

Robert J Sawyer is a very didactic author but the things that people are complaining about it don't even come close to that level of preachiness. If what you're arguing against is Robert J Sawyer, then you're arguing against something different than the person in OP.

[(Anonymous)]

+1 to all of this.