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⌈ Secret Post #698 ⌋

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101.

[The Crüxshadows]

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[LotR, Merlin]

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[Secret Saturdays, Marvel Comics]

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[Soul Eater]

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[Yotsuba&!]

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106.

[Transformers: Armada]

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[Dresden Dolls]

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108. [repeat]

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109.

[Stephanie Meyer]

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[Spoiler (DC), Edward (Twilight)]

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[Knights of the Old Republic]

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[Fullmetal Alchemist]

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[December Boys]

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[Ghost Hunters]

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[Bloody Monday]

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[Ranma 1/2]

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[James Spader]

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[Taylor Swift]

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[Edward Norton]

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[The Devil's Whore]

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129.

[Arthur]

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130.

[Gankutsuou]

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131. [repeat]

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[Metal Gear Solid/"Let's Destroy Metal Gear!"]

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[Supernatural]

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[Assassins]

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[Heroes]

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[Evangelion]

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[Gokusen]

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[Left 4 Dead]

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[Saw 5]

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[Legally Blonde]

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[Cobra Starship]

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[Harry Potter]

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*shrug* Ok then, what if she said "That girl is sexually promiscuous" instead of slutty? Would more fingers be pointed at her for misogyny then just because she used the wrong word? What if she used the word slutty for a boy who made out with a bunch of chicks?

And speaking of whore-men, how do you know she wouldn't feel the same way if Harry had boikned tons of girls even though he loved Ginny? You know, sexual promiscuousness from BOTH SEXES can be considered wrong to some people. I'M NOT SAYING GINNY WAS PROMISCUOUS BY MY STANDARDS THOUGH, but maybe for bamf_girl she is. Not all people have the same standards on what is considered inappropriate for a person to do.

(I really hope this all makes sense because I can't say my opinion in the correct way for shit D: I just find the arguing a little over the top is all.)

I don't know about

baranohanayome, but if she'd said "that girl is sexually promiscuous" coupled with the implication that being such meant she was not "good enough" to be with the hero, then yeah, I'd have reacted exactly the same way (i.e. I'd think she was being sexist and way judgmental).

And all the arguing might be over the top, but to be fair, calling a girl a slut because she kissed a couple of boys isn't exactly a low-key, unassuming conversation starter.

Hm, I didn't seem to read the part about her not being "good enough" for the hero. My mistake. I understand your point and I agree ( I don't think Ginny is a slut at all. I think having three relationships in one year is a bit weird myself, but eh. Ginny probably went through some issues we don't know about. Lol I'm rambling.)

I'm just getting the feeling that bamf_girl was probably just judging on Ginny by how she acted, not because of her gender. ASSUMING that she uses the word slut for boys too (I prefer whore myself, or harlot). Anyone can be a slut and/or not be good for someone, no matter what gender. If Harry had been a girl and Ginny a boy (wouldn't have that been awesome?), I'd think she'd might think that Man!Ginny wouldn't be good enough for Harry!girl.

...Yeah, again I hope I'm making some sort of sense. If not, shoot me...lmao why do I even care anymore.

To be honest, your opinion comes off as being completely ignorant of the cultural context in which people usually call girls sluts for having kissed three boys. Frankly, you're being an apologist and creating elaborate explanations to deny the simplest one, for reasons I don't quite understand. It's true, bamf_girl could think that way, but that doesn't invalidate the reaction of everybody here to attitudes that are, sadly, still pretty deeply ingrained in society.

Lol I love this fantastic wank. Forget it man, guess you can just send me off to sensitivity training because I think a character is sexually promiscuous and she happens to be a chick. Because Harry Potter and LJ comment wars are both very serious business.

~~If you want to send me a note I bet we could totally friend each other, haha.~~

Edited 2008-12-04 10:56 (UTC)

What

totable_cobra said. While the word slut is in and of itself offensive, the most offensive thing of all is the implication that a woman's value hinges upon her virginity--that is to say, the idea that Ginny (or any woman, real or fictional) is in any way "unworthy" of affection based solely upon her sexuality.

So, yeah. Even if she'd just said, "lol Ginny is promiscuous so she doesn't deserve Harry," instead of "lol Ginny is a slut so she doesn't deserve Harry," it would still be sexist.

Also? I never called

bamf_girl misogynist. I called what she wrote sexist. I believe I explained that in my above comment. =/

Eh sorry, you're right misogynist =/= sexist. Again, I don't have the best conversational skills so bare with me XD.

Maybe her wording wasn't very coherent and some people took it the wrong way, personally I think she's mostly judging on Ginny's actions/attitude (dating three fellas/ladies in a year for both genders can seem strange to some people), rather then what her gender role dictates her how too act.

Taken from

bamf_girl's above comment:

I wouldn't call Ron a whore, but making out in front of everyone in the common room is pretty on par with that.

I wouldn't call Ron a whore,

And I ask, why not? The fact that she wouldn't judge Ron as harshly for doing what gets Ginny labeled a "slut" is a double standard. Ron gets a disapproving frown, Ginny gets a scarlet letter. She is harder on Ginny because of her sex. And that is sexist.

Dude I wouldn't call Ron a whore because he didn't date three different people in a small span of time. I would call Ron a whore if he did. I'm not judging Ron as harshly because his crimes are not as intense. That's like me comparing a guy that stole a DVD to a guy that stole a car and giving them the same sentence. And yes, anon (whoever they may be) is right, it's more to do with Ginny's personality and the way she went about things, coupled with the fact that she went through three (I guess four if you count Harry) guys in what, to me, seems a pretty small span of time for relationships. Relationships being something other than like, making out or fuckbuddies or what have you.

TL;DR: You're doing this thing where you assume that I wouldn't think the same thing of a guy. And it's wrong. I can't think of a male counterpart in the series who went through loads of chicks (maybe Roger Davies? idk) to say that yes, they too, are on the sluttier side. Honestly, why all this wank because I don't like Ginny?

Relationships being something other than like, making out or fuckbuddies or what have you.

AKA Ron's relationship?

You're not proving anything, really. You can deny it all you want but why should anyone believe you when you sound like such a classic case?

Why should anyone point the finger when I was minding my own business and made a negative comment about a character I don't like? I'd say a relationship is something that has at least a small amount of emotional attatchment. I don't think that Ron had that with Lavendar. I think Ginny did have that with Dean and whoever she was doing before that.

At any rate, the short of it is that I don't like Ginny. Who the fuck cares?

Why are you so eager to make excuses for her?

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