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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-12-05 05:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #700 ]


⌈ Secret Post #700 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

101.


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102.
[Yu-Gi-Oh! 5Ds]


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103.


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104.
[Trigun, Wolfwood/Midvalley]


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105.


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106.


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107.
[Life]


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108.
[Stargate Atlantis]


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109.
[Stereophonics/Kelly Jones and Never mind the Buzzcocks/Simon Amstell]


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110.
[X-Factor UK]


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111.
[Disney's Sleeping Beauty/Enchanted]


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112.
[Phoenix Wright, Apollo Justice]


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113.
[Ghost Hunt]


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114. [repeat]


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115.
[House]


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116.
[Doctor Who; Tin Man; Martha Jones/Azkadellia]


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117.
[Mr. Krabs, Brother Justin]


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118.
[Gundam00]


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119.
[Supernatural]


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120.


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121.
[fleet foxes]


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122.
[Strictly Come Dancing]


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123.
[Titanic]


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124.
[CSI:Miami/Horatio Caine]


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125.
[penny arcade adventures: on the rain-slick precipice of darkness]


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126.
[Robot Chicken, Seth/Breckin]


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127.
[Yu-Gi-Oh! GX]


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128.


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129.
[Ouran]


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130.
[Hellsing OVA Alucard/Rip Van Winkle]


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131.


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132.
[Merlin]


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133.


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134.
[Liz Lemon, 30 Rock]


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135.
[Something Positive]


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136.


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137.
[Thorn]


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138.
[Supernatural, Heroes]


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139.
[Doctor Who, Super Temp Donna]


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140.
[Mock the Week. Russell Howard/Greg Davies.]


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141.
[Låt den rätte komma in]


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142.
[pictures for sad children]


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143.
[House]


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144.
[John Hodgman/Sarah Vowell]


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145.
[RPS;Nagayan/Tuti]


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146.
[joe biden/keith olbermann]


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147.


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148.
[Heroes]


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149.
[Damon Albarn and Jamie Hewlett]


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150.


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151.
[House]


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152.
[Naruto]


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153.


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154.
[Law & Order: Special Victims Unit]


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155.
[American Dad]


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156.
[Will and Grace]


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157.
[Daniel Radcliffe, Equus]


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158.
[Ravenous]


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159.
[Patrick Stump]


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160.
[Stephen Colbert, A Colbert Christmas]


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161.
[Bo Burnham, Roy Zimmerman, Yatzee (Zero Punctuation)]


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162.


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163.
[Huey Lewis and the News; American Psycho]


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164.
[ What the Buck? ]


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165.
[Trauma Center/Katekyo Hitman Reborn!]


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166.
[Robotech]


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167.
[Jamie, Doctor Who]


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168.
[GITS:SAC 2nd GIG]


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169.


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170.
[Fullmetal Alchemist]



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Re: rp account

[identity profile] alenxa.livejournal.com 2008-12-06 05:42 am (UTC)(link)
It's just that one shouldn't assume every published/professional writer does fall into it, repeatedly and inevitably, and then proceed from that assumption. Fandom at large seems to be following this formula a lot more than necessary.

Re: rp account

[identity profile] velvet-mace.livejournal.com 2008-12-06 05:55 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah but the argument is that Mei can't be a sue, and that just doesn't hold up. Statistics can't be used this way. It doesn't matter how often it happens, if it happens at all, then it's a valid option.


Personally, I don't think Mei is a sue, I think she has serious irritating design flaws, but they aren't due to the author favoritism. In fact, I think it's mostly a case of culture not translating. Now, Rodney McKay of Stargate Atlantis however is a good candidate for Studom and only manages to avoid being unbelievably irritating because his actor is extremely talented. Even so, the absolutely blatant author favoritism going on is starting to seriously annoy the fuck out of the fanbase, including the Rodney-lovers.


Edited 2008-12-06 05:55 (UTC)

Re: rp account

[identity profile] alenxa.livejournal.com 2008-12-06 06:39 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, I guess I just saw the comment more as a stern reminder of "mostly" than as an attempt to assert absolute law. Like school or workplace rules that can occasionally be bent for a good enough reason, but sometimes have to be strictly enforced so that people don't end up thinking (for example) they're entitled to wear bathrobes and bunny slippers to the office. My bad for letting pet peeves cloud my interpretation of the logic. :p

I'm actually not familiar with the source material from the original secret, but I do agree with you about cultural differences just on general principle. There've been several times I've wondered what purpose a character or plot point served in media from Japan, and only understood it after research. (Can't remember any, now that I've done the research. Darn.)

Re: rp account

[identity profile] voyakiloid.livejournal.com 2008-12-06 09:31 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, I guess I just saw the comment more as a stern reminder of "mostly" than as an attempt to assert absolute law. Like school or workplace rules that can occasionally be bent for a good enough reason, but sometimes have to be strictly enforced so that people don't end up thinking (for example) they're entitled to wear bathrobes and bunny slippers to the office.

To be honest, that's exactly how it was meant to be read. I'm probably just bad when it comes to getting the point across, or something.

Re: rp account

[identity profile] velvet-mace.livejournal.com 2008-12-06 06:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, you were berating her over and over again for calling Mei a Sue because, I guess, statistically it's unlikely. Which I'm not sure what you were trying to get after? That people shouldn't accuse canon manga characters of being Sues just on general principal? While we can use statistics to generalize, we can't use them to describe individual cases.

Re: rp account

[identity profile] velvet-mace.livejournal.com 2008-12-06 06:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, from discussions I've had with someone who understands the culture far better than I do, in Japan, a very small character is seen as being cute and adorable. In addition, Mei uses extremely polite and prissy language. So the result is this adorable, cute, polite and innocent princess character who is simultaneously kick-ass and powerful and independent -- which is supposed to come off as being funny, because these personality types should not mix.

But the problem is small doesn't = cute adorable teen in western eyes. Small = young child. Her polite language is entirely lost in translation. So instead we get a "princess", but not a very refined one, who looks like a 4 year old but lusts after men, and is a little fighting machine on par with the main characters. She isn't humorous, she's just disturbingly wrong.