[ SECRET POST #4912 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4912 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I have always found it wierd just how US readers tend to treat works of created in spaces where Asians are absolutely the privilaged majority as representations of minority voices. Of course, when such works get to the "West", they face racis assumptions, but that does not in any way negate the fact that their authors do not create from the underprivilaged minority POV.

/And if Liu Cixin was to be criticised for anything, I would start with more basic "carbon-cut characters and in some palces almost cartoonish male-centricity" than any "is his proposed vision of alien-human relations not liberal enough". (But I haven't read the third book in the trilogy)

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, my friend liked his first book but hated the second one because (spoilers) the main character had his staff go out and find him a perfect wife who fit all the criteria he personally specified, who when they found this woman she had no reason to love this dude but for some reason she just did. Because she's just there to be the perfect wife, who cares about making her act like a real person. And then she was fridged to motivate him. Now go to the reviews of the book and find a billion stans defending this writing because it's only misogynistic from a western perspective and you shrill wimmins who don't like it are all racist actually.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, the first part had its issues in terms of characterisations and absence of women, but there was this interesting and important female character that the story starts with (and whose decision is so pivotal), that I let it slide, but the second volume was so cringe worthy - especially the first section of it which unfortunately focused on this awful main character and really dragged everything down (the second part had some interesting elements, but you had to wade through some 200+ pages to get to them). (Although I did have a laught at the Bin Laden cameo, but that wasn't intentional on the author's part). Generally speaking, the author is very much a big picture guy, which makes him interesting for "what would humanity do" discussions (even if I don't agree with a lot of his takes), but also in some cases pretty bad at describing anything to do with individual humans' relations.

[meadowphoenix]

It's a viewpoint which centralizes US social dynamics for sure, but I do understand a bit of this when it comes to US awards and commendations, because the US social dynamics there are actually relevant.

[(Anonymous)]

There's definately some significance in an Asian work getting recognised within the local US context for people who live within this context, but I find it strange how (what seems like) the vast majority of that work's recipients ignores the original context of the work and is completely unwilling (not just unable) to interrogate it in any way other than US-centric context. They books in question have their own good and bad points, but the mere fact that an Asian person living in an Asian country writes about Asian characters is not a sign of his great progressiveness.

[meadowphoenix]

It is strange but I'm going to be honest and say that even very educated people don't have the background to think about the original context of eastern work unless they go looking for commentary by people who do have the background. I think they should look for it, but imo most people couldn't tell you who Edward Said is, and his writing is basic if not seminal or wholistic.