[ SECRET POST #4912 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4912 ⌋

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Comments

[philstar22]

Okay. Not telling you what to say. I just personally find it a bit rude to use it and I don't think it serves any useful purpose that would offset that rudeness. I don't think it is discriminatory, and anyone who says it is doesn't understand what discrimination is given that the US happens to be one of if not the most powerful countries in the world and really can't be discriminated against. I just think it is rude and pointless and pointlessly antagonistic.

And the other thing is that I usually agree with everything else people who use it say, and I think that by using it they antagonize and miss out on the chance to get the rest of their message heard. Of course there is a place for just anger, but people using USian aren't just using it to rant about the US, they want it to be used as a substitute for American and are using it in general conversations. And therefore their other, generally good, points often get lost.

[meadowphoenix]

This perspective....

It's like you understand that the US has privilege and power, but divorce that power and privilege from our language regarding ourselves and have not stopped to consider or have actually rejected that the use has a nationalistic purpose in of itself. I for one think it's very important for me to refrain from that synecdoche the US uses because it services the centering of this country in the power structure of the colonialized west and the Americas in general as normalized rather than merely realistic if only for myself. You don't have to think that's a useful purpose, but hopefully you can understand why "that's rude and lack purpose" is wild when I'm talking about my country's sovereignty and its aims and its history and have not advocated that use for anyone else? Did you ask me my purpose or decide that I couldn't possibly have had one you would validate as legit? Don't you see that's dismissive in of itself in your judgment of politeness? Rude to who? The government? Do they deserve my respect? Come on.

This also the specifically leftist in me but imo you should question why you want to center politeness when talking about the imperialistic impulses of a country you completely recognize to have dominate power. Do you object when people in the US call the cops pigs? If not why, when that is you know, actually an insult?

For the record, I wasn't saying you were telling me what to say. the anon who replied to me definitely was tho and you were saying that was a weird hill so i clarified what hill was actually being stood on.

[philstar22]

Okay, cool. I'm generally in the camp of call people what they want to be called, at least what that is in your language, except in certain contexts (anger reactions mostly, I think people's anger against oppression shouldn't be censored or "tone policed"). But I actually think I understand what your saying and I'm not going to tell you you can't use it. You are making a point in using it, and that is good. And maybe I'm just too comfortable with American, I don't know. You do you.

[meadowphoenix]

Thanks for this response, and I'll just said that I was deliberately using it for what I'll call sovereign attitudes rather citizen attitudes

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I just wanted to say that I get your point and also find it a little aggravating when people interpret eastern works with a western slant. But I suppose that process happens once something gets translated.