[ SECRET POST #4917 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4917 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Notes:

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Having a better grasp of the Simms Master - or even having a better grasp of character in general - still wouldn't mean that Moffat was a better showrunner, because there are aspects to showrunning besides character, like having a plot that doesn't totally disappear up its own ass

I do think Moffat is a better writer of episodes when he has a strong showrunner to rein him in

[(Anonymous)]

Eh, RTD's showrunning never wowed me either, and he definitely pulled some stuff out of his ass (tinkerbell-jesus-doctor, for example), especially in regards to resolutions after the climax (DONNA...)

[(Anonymous)]

Seriously. Moffat's Doctor was a lot of things, but he never had superpowers for crying out loud. Man do I hate that episode. Almost as much as I hate End of Time.

[(Anonymous)]

"disappear up its own ass" like you mean Davies did with Ten by the end with "Time Lord Victorious" and "I don't want to go" and acting like regeneration is death and the whole melodramatic sightseeing tour of everyone Ten has ever met as tragedy music plays?

Moffat have a fondness for storylines "gotcha" storylines where everyone actually guessed what the secret was, but at least he knew how to put a grand epic on the screen and also understood who the Doctor was and what a regeneration was and could do a regeneration story right. And when it was his time to go, he could hand it over gracefully and not act like the Doctor was dying just because his era was ending.

[(Anonymous)]

Except didn’t the twelfth doctor also not want to regenerate?

[(Anonymous)]

Sure, but not in the same way. Not to the point of wasting a regeneration. Not to the point of implying that using one regeneration might be worse than a human dying while Wilf was right there at risk of dying if the Doctor didn't safe him. Twelve was on his own and feeling doubts but then went through with it anyway after some encouragement. Not at all the same thing.

[(Anonymous)]

But if it’s not like dying why would twelve be bothered?

[(Anonymous)]

Because lots of things that aren't dying are difficult to go through? Because 12 had been through a lot of trauma already? Because the most recent regeneration 12 remembers is his own, and because that one was special because the Time Lords had to give the Doctor extra regenerations because 10 was stupid enough to waste a regeneration, it ended up being particularly traumatic for the Doctor and took 12 a while to find himself. So maybe the Doctor doesn't want that to happen to Thirteen? Lots of reasons that wouldn't involve him thinking it was dying and wouldn't involve him wasting a regeneration or trying to compare it to actual death of someone else.

[(Anonymous)]

It’s not dying, it’s “like dying.” Each Doctor is a new personality, with the old persona being gone.

And saying the twelfth doctor didn’t want to change because he was worried for the Thirteenth is really stretching it. He didn’t want to go, just like ten.

[(Anonymous)]

moff can write incredible individual episodes but he should never be allowed anywhere NEAR an arc

[(Anonymous)]

I disagree on that one. I love it when plotlines connect back to previous ones and I love Moffat's arcs.

[(Anonymous)]

Same.