[ SECRET POST #4920 ]

[case]

⌈ Secret Post #4920 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


01.



__________________________________________________



02.


__________________________________________________


03.


__________________________________________________



04.


__________________________________________________



05.


__________________________________________________



06.


__________________________________________________



07.


__________________________________________________



08.


__________________________________________________



09.


__________________________________________________



10.


















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 11 secrets from Secret Submission Post #704.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

01. https://i.imgur.com/FeVClXC.png

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know much about Victoria and I know very little about Victorian parenting but I get the impression that Victorian parenting was very fucked up and weird in general so I'm curious how much that played a role in whatever Victoria did

Anyway regardless, I totally get where you're coming from OP

[(Anonymous)]

Actually Albert made a point of interacting with his kids exactly the opposite of standard Victorian child-rearing: he was incredibly involved in their education, made sure they had a lot of time to play, and spent time with them so much that even as adults, when the kids discussed their childhoods with Albert with each other, they would speak with Albert's German accent.

Unfortunately with Bertie both Albert and Victoria had the misfortune of being completely uninformed about children and the way they develop (Victoria actually thought her first baby had a learning disability because she would suck on Victoria's bracelet. At 8 months old) and putting too much into the fact that Bertie would eventually become king. They decided early on that he was stupid and lazy (didn't help his older sister was the opposite) and that's what he heard all his life, with him being immoral tacked on too as he got older (which yeah, he was kind of a slut.)

It seems wildly significant that they clearly named Bertie after his father so that England would eventually have a King Albert, and instead he took the regnal name of Edward.

[(Anonymous)]

Not so, don't assume that the 20s critics were telling the truth any more than the Victorians. Private correspondence reveals a variety of approaches and personalities just like today.

[(Anonymous)]

I read a biography about her a while back and remember thinking she might’ve been happier if she hadn’t had so many kids.

[(Anonymous)]

She definitely would have been happier with fewer kids, but she loved sex and there wasn't exactly reliable birth control, especially for high-born ladies. Ironically if she hadn't been so disgusted by breast-feeding her own babies it might have helped space out her pregnancies more.

Victoria hated being pregnant and from what I've read, basically held each kid's birth against them (Bertie I believe was the hardest). Her last three kids were born when she could have chloroform for pain relief during labor and it's been noted that she seemed to have more affection for those babies way more than their siblings. She even considered her last child, Beatrice to be very pretty as a baby (had special paintings of her done and everything), when before she'd maintained all babies looked like frogs.

[hey_hey_hey]

What's the point of the show if they're not going to portray QV as a woman who could tell her daughter that losing a child is not as bad as losing a husband.

[(Anonymous)]

I would think that in Victorian times that would be actually kind of true? Infant mortality was still very high I believe so it might be kind of expected to lose some of your children as infants? Not saying it wouldn't be hard, but I can imagine that at a time with high infant mortality you might be more prepared for the death of an infant than you would a spouse.

[(Anonymous)]

No.



Assuming that because something happened more often and there were more obvious disadvantages to being widowed is backwards thinking. The shame of losing a child would have been heightened given their (more common) greater fervency for religion as well as it being the woman's 'reason for being', not to mention the view that babies were innocent would have sharpened the dagger.

[(Anonymous)]

The grief was handled in a different way I think. My friend was a midwife volunteering in an African country with a high infant mortality rate. The mothers wouldn't react, just carry on. You think they weren't grieving? They undoubtedly were but your brain needs to protect itself too.

[(Anonymous)]

Victoria and Bertie's RL relationship was so depressing that I'm glad they kind of backed off on it considering how grim that season was.