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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-06-25 08:56 pm

[ SECRET POST #4920 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4920 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2020-06-26 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
You sum up Shameless pretty well. All the earlier characterisation and the way they look after each other thrown out because poor people are trash and always will be, k? Sigh.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-26 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorta confused about the phrasing (isn't whatever the writers say canon) but I get where you're coming from it sucks when there's a really dramatic character shift that feels like the author is completely changing things for no good reason

(Anonymous) 2020-06-26 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
Technically yeah, once the writer's written it it's canon, but half the reason we even have discourse about fiction is bc sometimes Writers Suck at Writing and make character choices that make no sense in-character. Just bc it's now canon doesn't mean it was well-written, and people will argue that.

Especially if you're genre savvy (or a writer yourself) and you can follow the story and predict whats going to happen, an oddball move or outright They Would Not Do That stands out. (A good example is the Idiot Ball on TV Tropes. If a character has to hold the Idiot Ball, ie they make dumb decisions they would never make just make the plot happen.)

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(Anonymous) 2020-06-26 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
Well, yes and no. It becomes canon, but the decision may contradict previous canon. I don't necessarily want to use the word "loyal" but I think a show/series shouldn't simply ignore the history it's built upon. Drama, change and character development can be good things, but they shouldn't come out of nowhere or greatly contradict the past.
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[personal profile] greghousesgf 2020-06-26 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with you.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-26 09:52 am (UTC)(link)
House driving his car into Cuddy's living room feels like one of the worst examples of this, so I was specifically thinking, "I wonder if greghousesgf will comment on this one."

What the hell, writers. What. The. Hell.
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[personal profile] greghousesgf 2020-06-26 05:55 pm (UTC)(link)
god, I hated that. hated hated hated it.

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(Anonymous) 2020-06-26 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for turning my gripe into a full-fledged secret, secret-maker nonny! (I'm also very amused by your pic of choice.)

(Anonymous) 2020-06-26 04:22 am (UTC)(link)
Devin Grayson? I completely agree.

In general this is my least favourite thing, tbh, so I totally get you.

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(Anonymous) 2020-06-26 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Not familiar with the name or fandom, but it's kind of comforting to know others recognize bad decisions in writing across fandoms/genres. (But I'm also sorry you encountered such things.)