[ SECRET POST #4925 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4925 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Comments

[fscom]

02. https://i.imgur.com/945fe73.png

[(Anonymous)]

And for MUSIC MAN of all things.

[(Anonymous)]

Which is a solid money maker, apparently. Weigh the ticket sales of all the boomers who'll fork out $500 a head to see Hugh Jackman and Kirsten Chenowith, versus all the teenagers who'll... Probably watch a bootleg, let's be real.

[(Anonymous)]

Be thankful they're not closing it for...*shudders* "LOVE NEVER DIES". That thing will never make it to the Broadway stage and will only remain on tour.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, fan passion isn't going to help something that relies 100% on expensive in-person ticket sales in one city only, during a pandemic!

[meadowphoenix]

I mean I think you're right, but also that the money movers in broadway are entirely different from those in tv. you might be able to convince an advertiser that look all these people totally see your ads! You're not going to convince anyone that people are coming to a show when the ticket sales aren't there.

[(Anonymous)]

Beetlejuice wasn't canceled and didn't close, though. They were just straight up kicked out of their theater and didn't have another theater to go to.

[11thmirror]

Explain the difference between a TV show being kicked off a channel and not picked up by another, and a Broadway show being kicked out of a theatre and not having another theatre to go to.

[(Anonymous)]

TV and Broadway are two entirely different mediums and the politics are different?

[(Anonymous)]

End result looks very similar, tho

[(Anonymous)]

The end results might "look" similar, but it's just not correct to say the show was closed or canceled. It was kicked out of its venue for celebrity money. When a show closes it's usually a decision made by the showrunners themselves. This was different.

If you aren't super into Broadway then it might be meaningless to you, but the fact that a show that was doing well (an original show with an original score, small performers, etc) was actively thrown out of its theatre for a revival no one really cared about except for the Big Name Celeb? A very clear example of the problems with Broadway.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT—Beetlejuice was still in its original run, but it’s an adaptation of an existing work, not an original show.

[(Anonymous)]

It wasn't as if no one else wanted to take Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice was kicked out of their theater because of Hugh Jackman $$$. They didn't close or cancel. They were forced out of their venue. It's really uncommon for a TV show to be "kicked off a channel". They're usually just not renewed. It's important to talk about these distinctions because if a show closes simply because they're not doing well, that's one thing, but Beetlejuice was actively increasing sales and becoming more and more popular. The Broadway Elite just didn't care. They didn't like Beetlejuice and Hugh Jackman $$$ was more important. It was incredibly shitty.

[(Anonymous)]

In the case of Beetlejuice, it's more like a show that was starting to get good ratings and gain popularity gets cancelled because there was a clause in the producer's contract that they have to give up their timeslot if the ratings drop below a certain number and the producers of another show call in that clause pointing to ratings from before it started to get popular.

[(Anonymous)]

Except it wasn't a failure. It would have continued if it wasn't for COVID

[(Anonymous)]

They were actively breaking box office records at the theatre they were in and had great momentum. That's why people are upset (well, some of it's the stans who'd be upset even if it was doing poorly, but there are plenty of people who aren't superfans and who think that Scott Rudin using the stop clause in this case is a complete dick move)