[ SECRET POST #4930 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4930 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Exploring dark themes in fiction is ESSENTIAL. It's one of the only safe ways we can explore those parts of ourselves which exist. Denying them doesn't make the darker animal side of our nature go away. Almost all of us will exist as imperfect beings and in imperfect relationships. Understanding what humans are capable of allows us to reflect on these things.

The line that needs to be drawn is between exploring those themes and glorifying those themes, and that is a highly subjective line.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree with you and I don't think labeling something as disturbing or disgusting constitutes censorship. I think for a lot of people, they want to see really viscerally disturbing stuff glorified, at least so far as eroticizing it, because they get off to really disgusting porn. I'm not one of them, I think stuff involving prepubescent children, non-sapient creatures, racism, slavery, torture, or bodily wastes is horrifying, disgusting, or both. But "you can explore this so long as you don't cross this line" leaves out a lot of people who just want to masturbate to fictional decapitated babies being vomited on, or whatever, but would never condone it happening in real life.

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AYRT

Well, okay, I was mostly talking about books like Lord of the Flies and Catcher in the Rye. Not... that. Most of what you've mentioned seems likely to fall under the glorifying it erotically yeah and that's pretty horrendous.

Censorship used to be pretty easy huh, falling only on newspapers, books, film and TV. It's a whole other world of debate now content is being made and accessed by billions of people. D:

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, as someone that hugely fetishizes age gap relationships (often involving teens) in fiction, I think it's abhorrent in real life and I in absolutely no way find real-life teens attractive. I am 100% getting off on something gross. I know it's gross. I would never judge someone for not being into it or finding it disgusting, that's your right.

But the line of fiction is so, so important to remember-- taboo is fun to explore in fiction, that's literally as deep as it goes.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, same - I judge the hell out of adults chasing teenagers but the cool thing about fiction is that it allows me to picture a bittersweet rose-tinted version of that scenario. The implied danger of dating someone much older is hot.

Pisses me off when it's assumed that jacking off to a fantasy means I'll end up doing it for real. Yeah, no. Not any more than I'd become violent by watching John Wick.

[(Anonymous)]

I always wonder why murder and violence seem to get a pass with people who thinks reading a problematic thing = fully endorses the problematic thing in real life.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

So I agree with the idea that this isn't a really rational stance and has more to do with an instinctive reaction to certain kinds of content

That said, I also think most people accept the basic premise that violence is justified in certain situations, and most action movies go out of their way to ensure that the protagonists' use of violence will be seen as justified for audiences. So for instance John Wick does a bunch of things early in the movie to ensure that the audience is on John Wick's side. It's not like John Wick just decides to come back and start killing people one day. And if you did make a movie like that, it would read as much more nihilistic and morally unacceptable to audiences.

[(Anonymous)]

Probably because violence and murder are universally seen as bad things and most who write or create fiction about it aren't doing it to get their rocks off. Shit like rape and age gaps are fetishized, people get pleasure from it, it's almost normalized. Fuck, some people even have varying opinions on what even constitutes rape or barely even pause to think "hey, that's fucked up" when a 28 year old dude is dating a barely legal teenager. The "b-but nobody says anything about violence in fiction, what a doubl standard" argument is dumb and will always be dumb.

[(Anonymous)]

most who write or create fiction about it aren't doing it to get their rocks off.

You sweet summer child.

[(Anonymous)]

LOL right?