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⌈ Secret Post #4930 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

I've felt this way about some people whose characters are supposed to be good singers. I know taste is subjective, but people should have a somewhat trained voice and sing on key at least 50% of the time, right?

[dinogrrl]

Or characters who are supposed to be good instrumental musicians, and then... A) the sound doesn't support that, and B) did the actor not get ANY training on how to at least semi-convincingly fake-play the instrument in question? Good God >:[.

[sparklywalls]

This comment is quite timely because I've recently got into watching Two Set Violin videos on youtube (I'm thinking about picking up violin again after over a decade) and they roast the hell out of bad pretend violin playing. Some of the examples you would probably let slide if you weren't a violinist but there's some that are just SO bad. Like, not even bothering to put their fingers on the strings while sawing away with the bow bad.

[dinogrrl]

Oh yeah I've watched some of their videos! It's so funny seeing their reactions, but they do have really good analysis to follow up with WHY they react that way.
It's just so frustrating because it's not like violin is a particularly rare instrument or anything, surely if you're going to make music a big enough part of your film that a main character is shown performing on-scree, you can either find an actor who has some idea of what they're doing, find someone to teach them, or get a body double for those scenes.

I too like to gripe about how terrible on-screen music-playing is, but my favorite thing of all is to nitpick musicians showing up in period movies. Let me tell you exactly how I feel about modern versions of instruments showing up in movie that take place before they're designed.

[sparklywalls]

Exactly, even Two Set have proven with their analysis that you can teach a non-player to do enough that to most viewers it looks legit if you want to go down the route of having just the actor in shot. I wasn't even close to advanced when I stopped playing and I can tell when someone is just randomly sliding their fingers around without a care for whatever piece they're supposed to be playing.

To be fair, that's a pretty good thing to nitpick. Like, I know real period instruments can be expensive either by themselves or from an insurance perspective but it does look a bit ridiculous if you've got things or bits of things obviously made out of cheap plastic before that was an option.

[dinogrrl]

Oh there are plenty of cheap modern construction period-style instruments out there. I've got one, bought it for like $300 (which yes is cheap as shit). I think a studio could swing $300 for a cheap student model period instrument. Heck at that price, you could even afford to restain the wood whatever the heck color you wanted it to be and then set it on fire afterwards! Just please stop putting modern instruments in period movies!

[sparklywalls]

This is what I don't get, a decent props department can probably make or source something that looks real even if it isn't. Putting a store-bought 21st century version of an instrument in a film set in another period just seems ultra lazy!

[(Anonymous)]

This gets me, too... I play both violin and piano and can easily spot fake playing. Some actors try harder than others, but aside from the bowing or fingering being wrong, some people just hold the violin/bow incorrectly. If their pinkie finger is straight and stiff on the bow? Fake. Any halfway decent violin teacher would correct that, and a virtuoso is unlikely to have that issue.

[dinogrrl]

Yeah like I said to the other commenter, if your show/movie is going to focus enough on music that a main character is shown on-screen performing, ESPECIALLY if they're supposed to be highly skilled, there really is no excuse to not visually back that up. Especially when it comes to very common instruments like guitar, violin, and piano.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes. At least get it right for the close up shots, it's not that hard. The other thing that bothers me is when you see someone fake-playing the piano and the music is the upper octaves but they're on the wrong side of the keyboard, or vice versa.

[greghousesgf]

This! The main character in the Duchess of Duke Street has a daughter who's supposed to be this amazing singer, and we only hear her sing one song in the show and she's not awful or anything, but she's not that great either.