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⌈ Secret Post #4930 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

for some ppl i think it's 100% the taboo aspect that draws them in, which is fine. but for others i do think there's something to what you say, that there's a lack of permanent female, or unrelated male, characters for shippers to latch onto.

there's also something to be said for how a lot of brother relationships in media get to be more emotionally open or emotionally intense than some m+m friendships do, plus with the added allowance for physical affection, because you don't have to no-homo brother hugs/embraces.

obvs however every fandom is different and not all of them have notable incest ships that get much traction, while others will subsist entirely off of it(and the those that to, do me certainly lack other viable shipping options for either party).

the only disparity i find curious though is that this rarely occurs with sister relationships, those tend to get taken at their face-value sibling-bond with very little conjecture at how two sisters hugging is 'gay' despite the fact that at least to me, sisterly relationships in media are usually above and beyond in terms of emotional+physical affection than m+m ones. and yet... crickets.

idk, i've warbled here but the whole occurrence of how ships crop up within fandoms is pretty fascinating to me, and even though i do think a large part of it is 'just cause' i also think there is some logic behind it at the same time.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm only speaking from my own POV but the brother/sister thing is far less appealing because of the possibility of kids which is a line for me.

[(Anonymous)]

the only disparity i find curious though is that this rarely occurs with sister relationships, those tend to get taken at their face-value sibling-bond with very little conjecture at how two sisters hugging is 'gay' despite the fact that at least to me, sisterly relationships in media are usually above and beyond in terms of emotional+physical affection than m+m ones.

I would imagine that's probably why people take them at face value - because female friendships are allowed to be more openly affectionate than male friendships in real life. My female friends and I hug each other/lean on each other/put our heads in each other's laps/etc. all the time, so if I saw two women doing that in a piece of media I would be more inclined to read that as just being a friendship because that's what my friends and I do with each other and there's nothing romantic about it when we do it. I wouldn't automatically interpret it as being a sign of anything more than friendship, basically, whereas with two guys I would be much more likely to see it in a romantic light because you don't really tend to see guys doing that sort of thing in real life the way you do women.

[(Anonymous)]

ah, that could be part of it yeah.

speaking for myself i don't actually read physical affection between a pair of sibs to be anything unusual or noteworthy, even if it's two dudes, but if others do have that perception then i can see how a shipper-lens would be applied to the relationship. it makes sense.

[(Anonymous)]

DA - I agree this is probably part of it. But also, a lot of people just don't ship femslash. Most of my all-time favorite characters are female character, but when it comes to shipping, my sex-brain just needs a man involved.

For example, I loved all three seasons of Jessica Jones, and the whole time I was watching it I kept thinking, "Man, Jessica and Trish's relationship is begging to be made femslashy." But there was just no spark there for me, so I didn't ship it. (Relevant to this discussion because Jessica and Trish have a relationship that is closer to siblings than friends, despite not being genetically related.)

[(Anonymous)]

There's a fair bit of Anna/Elsa out there. It's the only big f/f incest pairing I can think of, though the only m/m one I can think of is SPN anyway, so I'm probably not a good source!

[(Anonymous)]

Well there's a dearth of main female characters, let alone a pairs of sisters as main characters—Frozen is an exception. You’ll see brothers, you’ll see mixed-gender siblings, but rarely sisters.