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[ SECRET POST #4930 ]

⌈ Secret Post #4930 ⌋

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Much as I loved Hugo Weaving as V in V for Vendetta, I feel like they missed a chance to cast a Black or Pakistani or Indian actor, preferably one who was also British. Or maybe a trans man, not that he couldn’t be both a POC and trans.

I think an Irish or Eastern European actor would’ve worked too, for a British audience, but it wouldn’t have had the same impact for Americans. Since the audience never sees enough of V to determine his race or ethnicity, I guess it doesn’t matter from an in-universe standpoint, but still.

... Why??? I haven’t read the comics, is he Indian or Pakistani in the comics?

AYRT--

Sort of spoiler, here...

He may have been Valerie in the comics. The government manufactured plague was invented for the film adaptation; in the comics, the scientists were doing hormone research, iirc one woman's autopsy reveals she's growing a hand and fingers in her leg.

The scientist V kills whose journal is left for the police to find mentions lesbians, black women, and a Jamaican immigrant, but not specifically Indians or Pakistanis. They're just groups that have come in for a lot of racist shit in the UK over the years.

His face is never shown, Evey at one point imagines him as a Black man. V sings a song about there being "No queers or Yids or darkies" left in Britain, so I suppose he may also have been Jewish.

Fair. You're right, it does sound like they mussed an opportunity there. I need to rewatch that film.

I think him being a straight white dude was sort of relevant to the plot in the film. He didn't have that anger on his own. He had to discover the note and learn about the woman who hadn't really caused any problems for the government, who was being tortured just for being alive and gay and happy. He didn't have a story of his own.

AYRT--he must have, though, to have ended up in a camp. Whether he was a political prisoner, or gay, or trans, or Muslim, or Black, or Pakistani, or Jewish... even he may not have known, if his skin color (where he wasn't flambéed, anyway) wasn't obviously dark, since he apparently forgot his life prior to being imprisoned, at least in the film. His forgetting wasn't a plot point in the comics, iirc.

But if he was a straight white dude, he must've done something to piss the government off. Maybe just mocked them, since he may have been an actor. But it doesn't follow that his backstory was that he was a straight white dude just because Weaving is (I think? I don't know anything much about him.)

Nayrt - Hugo Weaving's first big role was as a bisexual drag queen, but yeah, pretty sure he's straight. He does have epilepsy, though, which would probably be enough to have him in peril from facists.

AYRT--while the film shows a senior care home, in the graphic novel seniors are bludgeoned to death as a burden on society; the disabled are never mentioned in either, but I imagine they wouldn't survive long enough to be experimented on. :-(

Part of the MO of fascist and totalitarian governments is that the government doesn't need a reason to target you, beyond just being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

But also, I think the identity of V before he became V is not very important to the overall piece, and I don't think that casting a minority actor would have added anything (or, indeed, taken it away).

AYRT--on the one hand, I agree that V's identity prior to becoming V isn't important or the point of the story itself. On the other, I think some people who enjoyed the movie as an action blockbuster with explosions and flashy knife fights while determinedly ignoring the real world parallels might've thought about the ideas behind the story more if a minority actor had played V.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. Like, I think the anti-fascism message is pretty adequately portrayed in the movie (even if the pro-anarchism part doesn't really transition over from the graphic novel)

Not that I disagree, but from what I understood the actors who were first offered the role of V rejected it because they claimed that they couldn't act with a mask. I think Hugo Weaving was a bit far down on the list of choices too when trying to fill the role.

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