[ SECRET POST #703 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #703 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 13 pages, 314 secrets from Secret Submission Post #100.
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Comments

Re: 167

[mekkio.livejournal.com]

How so? They have their own look, their own language, their own food, their own customs and history. How is it not an ethnic group?

Re: 167

[shy-nerthuserce.livejournal.com]

Well, some people have claimed that since the Act Of Union with Scotland, neither England nor Scotland technically exist - and people like Gerry Addams and members of our own government have claimed that the English don't exist, but if we don't, then what *are* we?! O.o So no, *I* don't get how we English aren't an "ethnic group" either; sure, we're a mixture of intermarriages between the Romans/Saxons/Jutes/Normans/Danes/etc who've passed through over the millenia, but show me a race that's "pure" and I'll eat my own head.

Re: 167

[mekkio.livejournal.com]

I agree. Look at the Italians. Everyone considers them an ethnic group easily without question but just about every neighboring country has gone through the place and left little footprints.

And Gerry Addams is a twit. Yes, you are an ethnic English. You have a country of origin, a language, history, customs and most of all an ethnic look all of your own.

Sorry, but there is no way an English could ever pass for Russian or Greek even though you are all technically "white".

By the way, how does one eat her own head?

Re: 167

[aligoestonz.livejournal.com]

Ethnicity, cultural background, and nationality have a lot of overlap but they aren't the same thing. Language, food, and customs are cultural factors not ethnic ones. History's a matter of nationality. As for the common look, what colour hair and eyes do the ethnic english have? In terms of ethnicity you can't really break it down any more finely than white western european before you get shedloads of false positives.

Re: 167

[mekkio.livejournal.com]

So what you are telling me is all white people look alike? Wow, that's really racist.

And no they don't. Eastern Europeans (You can really see this in Germans) have yellow undertones in their skin pigment, Southern Europeans have olive undertones and Northern Europeans have pink. This due to their diet and environment. There is no one shade of whiteness.

The German stereotypical look is high cheekbones with long narrow faces, while stereotypical Spanish have almond shaped eyes and strong brows, The Irish have round heads with large square foreheads, The stereotypical Scottish look for men is of large eyes and a strong jawline. For the English it's smallish noses, fleshy faces and high foreheads.

And as wiki says, An ethnic group is a group of human beings whose members identify with each other, usually on the basis of preferential endogamy (marrying within a social group) and/or a presumed or real common ancestry.[1][2] Ethnic identity is further marked by the recognition from others of a group's distinctiveness[3] and the recognition of common cultural, linguistic, religious, behavioral or biological traits,[1][4] real or presumed, as indicators of contrast to other groups.[5].

So, yes, food, language and customs are part of one's ethnicity. Or have you never eaten "ethnic food"?

Re: 167

[aligoestonz.livejournal.com]

So what you are telling me is all white people look alike? Wow, that's really racist.

Oi! Don't put words in my mouth, that was not what I said. I said that you get false positives, which you do, because the various conquests and migrations between the various western european countries mean that similarities in appearance are greater than the differences. The reason why I said Western european was to make it clear that I wasn't talking about the eastern, northern (scandinavian) or southern (mediteranean) europeans.

The important word in that wiki you quote is "presumed". Because there is often a correlation between ethnicity and culture it's presumed that certain cultural traits are part of one's ethnicity, but they aren't necessarily. To give you an example, my cousin and I are both of white western european ethnicity. However we have very different cultures and somewhat different language and food, as I grew up in England and he grew up in the US. What he calls soccer I call football, he celebrates Thanksgiving whereas I celebrate Bonfire Night, and he has this strange belief that peanut butter and jelly (or jam as I'd call it) is an appropriate sandwich filling. Culturally, I have far more in common with Paterson Joseph even though we are of different ethnicities.