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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-12-10 05:04 pm

[ SECRET POST #705 ]


⌈ Secret Post #705 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Snoop Dogg, Sensual Seduction music video]


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[Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann - Gurren Gakuenhen]


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Notes:

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[identity profile] two-if-by-sea.livejournal.com 2008-12-10 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not saying you're wrong that some people ship it because it's funny or because it's sexy. I do agree that some people do. Maybe it is even a large majority of them. And being in the community, I know we do joke a lot about how "for the lulz" it is, and make dirty jokes, or talk about how sexy the cabinet is, but I don't think that's necessarily reflective of how some of us actually feel about shipping them. It's kind of like how I joke about being Chinese is cool because it means when I'm 40 I'll still look 12, but I'm not happy I'm Chinese because of my looks.

Like, for instance, I think the pairing is interesting because they're two people who early on in their life dedicated a lot of it to politics, for very different but also very similar reasons. They're also two people coming together to work for a greater goal, and I find that interesting in a lot of ships, the idea of teamwork and partnership where the personal relationship isn't the only thing holding the pairing together. They both came from a very corrupt political neighborhood, but Obama embodies a kind of hope for change and honesty that I think Rahm would be attracted (not just sexually) to. There's also an element of Rahm's attack-dog nature re: Obama. And his past experience being an adviser for Clinton. I think there's a lot of really interesting tension in all of that background that makes me like exploring it through a romantic and/or sexual relationship. I know I'm not doing it because I find it sexy/I'm getting off on it and not because it's funny, and there are a few people I talk to often on the comm whom I'm sure don't do it for those two reasons either.

I hope I'm making sense. Please tell me if I start talking too much or become incoherent, or if you're not interested in the conversation and just want to drop it-- no hard feelings.

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-12-10 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
You know, I don't even know how to respond to this without opening the kettle of worms that is the RPS debate. Personally, I find it a lot easier to understand shipping it just for sex or just for lulz. Frankly, I had not even fathomed that anybody was shipping Rahmbama wholly unironically and my instinctive response is just to ask, "But what about Michelle?!"

[identity profile] two-if-by-sea.livejournal.com 2008-12-10 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Mmm, no, I hear you. It is hard to talk about any RPS pairing without getting into the RPS debate in general. Steering clear of that, I think in real life, I find Barack/Michelle to be a great pairing, and I really love the fact they're going to be The First Couple. And in a lot of the stories, Michelle is included as a player with just as much power and importance as Barack and Rahm. But that's the difference between writing and real life, I guess; in writing you can pick and choose parts of an overall scenario to blow up and examine at leisure, and explain away the other parts. And I don't find shipping RPS pairings of people already in established relationships to be any different than shipping fictional pairings of people already in established relationships (re: say, I ship Harry/Hermione even though they're in established relationships, and the "But what about Ginny/Ron?" factor, .I feel, is the same as the "But what about Michelle/Amy?" factor).

But then again, that brings us back to the RPS debate (I think!).

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-12-10 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I mostly just feel for Michelle because... I love Michelle. I can't say I ship her and Barack, but they're just so OTP! The idea of them being broken up just wounds me.

[identity profile] two-if-by-sea.livejournal.com 2008-12-10 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
They are a great couple together. Whenever I see them interact, like that one time Barack was like "is it a small yappy dog? :|" and Michelle was like HUSH BE NICE, it makes me happy.

And her fashion taste is pretty A+ in my book. :D

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-12-10 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Stop luring me into fangirling Michelle, I'll never get away from the computer tonight if I start!

[identity profile] two-if-by-sea.livejournal.com 2008-12-10 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
♥ never enough love for Michelle, but okay. :>