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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-12-10 05:04 pm

[ SECRET POST #705 ]


⌈ Secret Post #705 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Elf]


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[Naria: Caspian/Susan]


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[Hellsing]


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[Snoop Dogg, Sensual Seduction music video]


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[Weiss Kreuz]


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[NCIS]


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[Eternal Sonata]


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[Fullmetal Alchemist]


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[Spirited Away]


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[Prince of Persia]


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[Eureka]


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[It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia]


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[Harry Potter]


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[Special A]


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[Labyrinth]


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[Making Fiends]


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[Bust a Groove]


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[Hetalia]


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[Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann - Gurren Gakuenhen]


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[MSNBC, Morning Joe: Joe Scarborough/Mika Brzezinski]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 165 secrets from Secret Submission Post #101.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - doing it wrong ], [ 1 - posted twice ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
azurite: (twilight - literary syphilis)

Re: 145

[personal profile] azurite 2008-12-15 05:55 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for responding politely and coherently. I appreciate it, and apologize if I came off rudely at all.

To be honest, I don't think that Edward allowing Bella to visit Jacob whenever she pleases is the penultimate form of relaxing his "dictator" ways. It's like he's got her on a leash and he's given her a bit of slack-- she's still on a leash.

Plus, if he does "improve" after they're married, it's probably BECAUSE they're married. He's got her "for eternity" now. Bella couldn't get away from him if she wanted to-- she's got the responsibility of her child (her own personal reasons for wanting to be a better parent than she sees her own parents as being a primary reason), but even if that weren't a factor, Edward and the other vampires would likely come after her. Edward himself points it out -she can't escape from him (not even as a vampire herself). She'd end up living like the recluse vampire-- what's his name, Alistair? He wasn't exactly described with glowing praise in BD, so I doubt his lifestyle of hiding from hte Volturi and the rest of vampire-dom is something Bella -wanting to "live" free and on her own- is something she'd aspire to. But it'd likely be her only choice, given the people she's surrounded herself with.

You are right that the sort of fangirls who are squeeing over Edward would have found that same sort of obsessive devotion in another character somewhere, but that doesn't make it any better (their behavior or Edward's character and "excusing" it).

As for your last comment, I think that's the crux of what a lot of people are trying to argue about the nature of the series and what it presents. The kind of people reading it AND squeeing over it, scratching their necks to make them bleed, wishing their boyfriends were [like] Edward, etc.-- those are the sort of people who, even if they register that vampires don't exist, won't register the rest of it. AT ALL. And they'll get stuck in a relationship that they've idealized and that "Twilight" and Stephenie Meyer have glamorized if they believe in those ideals to a fault. So yes, the readers are still very much at fault, but it's not like the series or the author are blameless. Without them, there'd be no issue at all here.