[ SECRET POST #4941 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4941 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Yuri on Ice is not BL, it's queerbait, plain and simple.

[(Anonymous)]

Hard disagree it's BL with light censorship. It's entirely about their relationship, they kiss, they get engaged.

[(Anonymous)]

They do neither. Japan is literally not the market that censors this shit. I don't give a shit about what bullshit the creators was spewing. They cut the scene, have them hug, and Yuri 'no homos' the fuck outta that 'engagement' when the stupid shit realizes that exchanging rings in a romantic location might actually imply something. Regardless Victor makes the bet with the group that they would marry if Yuri won... which, y'know, he fucking didn't.

There is a fuckton of actual BL and better hinted at/implied romances out there, especially in anime, that doesn't attempt to get off by trying to build itself up off of the pathetic stereotypes of a sport rife with such stigmas and using those reestablished ideas as the main basis as the queerbait romanic default based in hero worship with zero context/zero alternate pov we get with Yuri!

It's about their relationship sure. But all it shows is Yuri being a little bitch and Victor standing around and taking it.

[(Anonymous)]

It's literally marketed and sold as BL.

[(Anonymous)]

And yet it doesn't actually deliver.
I can see it now, Yuri actually realizing that buying and exchanging rings outside a famous church and forcing Victor to have a sworn obligation to him. Y'know, and not five minutes later be completely flabbergasted that Victor would joke that such a thing could mean something serious, let alone marriage, and no homo the fuck out of it.

It's marketed post production as BL because people these days apparently don't know what that means and apparently believe everything they read on the internet. And profit is profit after all. This would hardly be the first case of false advertising to get thirsty fuckers to buy something that has nothing to do with the sales pitch.

[(Anonymous)]

You're an ass who doesn't want people to have anything nice, and I hope you realise you're arguing with more than one anon here. Yuri has very clearly telegraphed social anxiety and panicked at being immediately rumbled by Pitchit.

Mentioned it to my ace wife, who missed the kiss and hates "everyone gets married" plots, and even she responded "if it was a man and a woman nobody would even question that they were a couple." Like, sorry it didn't follow the exact Game Of Life route you want every romance to do or something? Not everybody's does, especially if anybody is shy or closeted. I fucked my wife before I even asked her out, and we were together over a decade before we considered marrying. It happens. YoI has weird direction and POV but there's zero way they changed it at the last minute to make it be romantic. I mean how fucking delusional do you have to be

[(Anonymous)]

Why the shit would I care about your wife's opinion? And where's the need to mention her sexuality unless you think you have some kind of leg up on the subject because you're married to someone who reluctantly agreed with you that if this was straight nobody would care? Sorry to burst your bubble but I'm ace too, I've had that exact conversation before and even those who are convinced it's canon said they wouldn't feel the same way if they'd been a guy and a girl, on this very comm. to be exact. Also way to overshare, unfortunately your romantic escapades don't actually change the canon of the show, shocking, I know.
You can call me an ass for disagreeing with the initial post but when people go out of their way to respond to me about something I obviously disagree with them about then it really can't be a surprise when I come back to the exact same point. That aside from some ho'yays nothing about their relationship is actually romantic, from beginning, middle, and end.

I'll try not to hurt your feelings by going into anymore details about how the show is not at all how you saw it in my eyes, since you're very clearly projecting yourself into Yuri of all people to the point of, as you put it, delusion. So have a nice unconventional life with your wife or whatever.

[(Anonymous)]

God what a nasty person. I mentioned the fact my wife is ace because she has really low identification with romantic or sexual plots, and often misses that stuff if it's not spelled out, literally the only reason I brought it up. And the part you thought was a massive overshare was just me being frank - and anon - as I suggested that people can do things in an unconventional order and it's more likely if one or more people in the relationship is closeted in some way.

I don't relate strongly to any character, or even think it's a particularly well-made show. I still think it's a cheerful story and it's great that a mainstream show turned out gay. It's a good sign for the future of anime and it made me happy. Jeez. You're the one who was saying it wasn't a BL anime and that they "don't kiss" and "don't get engaged" like fucking hell man, censorship or preemptive self-censorship happen. I watched it, thought it was sweet, enjoyed being there for the moment and pretty much moved on. I'm not so wrapped up in it that I have to rewrite it in my head for not being the perfect gay show or whatever weird shit you're gunning for.

[(Anonymous)]

ace wife btw

[(Anonymous)]

Are you fucking kidding me? It was relevant, you're just embarrassed that you jumped to conclusions that I was trying to use her for rep or something rather than her sitting next to me laughing at your post. Creep.