case: (Default)
Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-07-19 06:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #4944 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4944 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


01.



__________________________________________________



02.


__________________________________________________


03.


__________________________________________________



04.


__________________________________________________



05.


__________________________________________________



06.


__________________________________________________



07.

























Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 38 secrets from Secret Submission Post #708.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2020-07-20 08:05 am (UTC)(link)
One, I don't object to people disliking Meghan Markle, but I do think it's ridiculous for people to act like the royal family is this great wonderful institution that she's sinning against. For instance, "acting against the interests of her husband's family and institution" - why should I care about that? I can understand why it would cause tension between her and her husband's family, but I hardly see why that should matter to me or why we should automatically assume that it's such a big deal that she did something the royal family disliked. You even say you don't think it's a big deal but you still included it on your big list of Meghan's Misdeeds, presumably because it would make the royal family angry - but I don't care at all about whether the royal family is angry. If there's emotional tension between her and the royal family, that is their affair to sort out, not mine to make Meghan Markle the villain.

Second, I think the kind of vitriol that I see from the gossip magazines and blogs towards Markle is ridiculous and I don't trust it one bit. It seems incredibly partial and I would not consider taking it at face value the way you do here.

Third, the tone of this post is unbelievable, and making these kinds of arch statements about how you're not really judging her and you're fine if Prince Harry is happy with the selfish whore who's only in the relationship to take advantage of him is absolutely ridiculous. Claiming that Meghan Markle does not love her son because of the way you judge her body language in pictures. Claiming that she's evil and self-centered for having PR people on a charity trip, which you acknowledge is not uncommon. Saying that people in the UK have higher standards for their royals, like Prince Andrew wasn't infamously close friends with a deceased trafficker of underage girls. Acting like there's no other possible explanation for why people in the UK would have a different view of Markle, and no possibility that anyone in a position of power would want to make her look bad and damage her reputation.

Just fucking absurd.

(Anonymous) 2020-07-20 08:31 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Lol calm down. There's no reason for you to care about any of it. For some people it does matter though, and you were wondering why there were people who didn't like Meghan. These and other reasons are some people have beef with Meghan. Whether or not you agree doesn't actually have much to do with it, these are commonly cited reasons on gossip boards and such where celebrities are picked over and discussed. Some people really stan the royal family which is...cute I guess. But what can you do.

Tabloid gossip is delightful by the way, you should try having more fun with it. Celebrities benefit from these pieces too, it almost feels unfair not to give them a good look over.

Of course Meghan Markle is a selfish whore. But most Hollywood actresses are selfish whores, that's what makes the furor around her so funny. Her behavior is completely acceptable and common in her social circles. The idea that Meghan is worth freaking out over, by the people who do freak out about her, is absurd. It would be like getting into a tizzy about Gwenyth Paltrow and her alternative health scams. And the royal family got rolled by her of all people? That's impressive and she has genuinely accomplished something remarkable by getting Harry as quickly as she did and exploiting her position and background for maximum exposure and sympathy. She's effectively invincible in the court of public opinion. She is unironically a genius at how she's managed this.

People don't go to Hollywood because they want to do artistic things, they go there because they're narcissistic and want lots of money, influence, and attention. If they don't want those things then they get out fast. They are narcissistic creatures to the core.

The only thing that makes Meghan stand out from other actresses is how ruthless she is. Lots of them try to walk the walk but Meghan successfully netted herself a prince, has consistently kept herself and her family in the tabloids (ensuring cash flow as tabloids give kickbacks for receiving these PR info packets), and she and Harry are getting paid 6 figures per speech to talk about meaningless fluff to airheaded socialites that want to hear empty words. It is remarkably impressive what she's managed to do, her family is set for life if she invests wisely. I'm sure that she has a good investment advisor to look after her assets.

Meghan is a social climber and a typical Hollywood creature. She's incredibly successful and very impressive. I'm very eager to follow her exploits from here and I'm eager to see where she goes from here.

(Anonymous) 2020-07-20 08:49 am (UTC)(link)
Your misogyny is showing

Go fuck yourself

(Anonymous) 2020-07-20 10:02 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT This really isn't misogyny. There really are people out there like this both men and women.

(Anonymous) 2020-07-20 12:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Of course Meghan Markle is a selfish whore. But most Hollywood actresses are selfish whores

This is bog standard misogyny.

(Anonymous) 2020-07-20 04:52 pm (UTC)(link)
You seem to agree with a lot of the framing of why people hate Markle, even where that framing is transparent horseshit. Again, you literally said she doesn't love her son based on body language in pictures. WTAF is that.

Tabloid gossip is delightful by the way, you should try having more fun with it. Celebrities benefit from these pieces too, it almost feels unfair not to give them a good look over.

Tabloid stuff can be fun and there are times that I do enjoy it. I also think that there are things tabloids do that are massively fucked up and bad, and one of those is when there are vitriolic campaigns against specific figures. And the idea that she's "invincible in the court of public opinion" seems slightly odd, when you are also laying out a number of extremely negative widespread opinions about Markle largely derived from the tabloid press and blogs. Seems kinda strange!

And the other problem I have, to reiterate, is that it seems like this level of skepticism and hostility is very selectively exercised. You say that all Hollywood actresses are selfish whores (which, that's a weird statement on its own, tbh) but you seem to have a special vitriol for Markle. You acknowledge that the royal family isn't perfect and that going against the wishes of the royal family doesn't intrinsically make someone a bad person, and that being a social climber is hardly unique to Markle, and yet still the reflexive construct seems to be Markle bad Middleton and the rest of the royal family good and you don't seem to have any objections to people framing it that way.