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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-07-20 05:27 pm

[ SECRET POST #4945 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4945 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Queer Eye]


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[Criminal Minds]


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[Dunkirk (2017)]


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[Murder by Numbers (game)]


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[Fights Break Sphere, aka Battle Through the Heavens]


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[Locke & Key]

























Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 31 secrets from Secret Submission Post #708.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: +1

(Anonymous) 2020-07-21 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
Hell yes this.

But there's also what the anon below said: nowadays some discourse seem to go the "go full-on 'out and proud queer' or don't go queer at all" way/mindset, because making a character confused, closeted, ambiguous or just not-too-vocal-about-their-sexuality-or-lack-thereof is supposedly "for the cishets" ; which is totally unrealistic and even boring from a character creation/writing point of view IMHO but some folks (esp. youth) seem to find comfort in those utopias or perhaps even relate better (as in: these characters aren't realistic but they're just like online me). On a personal level I usually dismiss it as "maybe I'm old, give me the cishet-appeasing stuff". (Of course, I'd rather have well-written stuff with characters who happen to be lgbt+ over both any day.)

Re: +1

(Anonymous) 2020-07-21 06:48 am (UTC)(link)
Yep, made a secret about a character who is canonically in denial of being a lesbian and shows signs of internalized homophobia when it comes up, but the fandom ignores all this and pretends she can't do anything but talk about what a big gay she is. I said her canon self would be perfect for interesting fics where she overcomes her denial, and a young lesbian anon reacted like I'd killed her puppy.

Re: +1

(Anonymous) 2020-07-21 08:11 am (UTC)(link)
Yess. Like hell, I've been dealing with this so much lately!!

It's completely ridiculous, imo, If people like, relate, or feel, for that character. Eliminating the canon aspect of those troubles might as well be throwing up a big middle finger at everything anyone facing such a crisis might go through in order to accept themselves and work towards being comfortable with who they are.
Because you are absolutely right 100%. Working out a fic where she accepts and deals with her denial and homophobia would not only be more interesting, (let alone accurate). It'd be more beneficial to the people who actually relate to her, and need that comfort that fiction always gives, that if she can get through this, then maybe I can too. Rather than skip the details and getting lost in the delusion that making her as gay as possible is more feeding into a pipe dream rather than as an existence that could be had.

The young lesbian who reacted to you in such a way is very clearly is still going through some issues of her own. If she can tolerate the character in canon, but cannot conceive the idea that she could be anything other than a broken record of scratching on and over again what a big queer she is, then quite frankly I'm concerned for her.