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⌈ Secret Post #707 ⌋

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101.

[The Twilight Zone & Rod Serling]

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102.

[Zero Punctuation]

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103.

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104.

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105.

[Aaron Carter]

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106.

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107.

[Peter Parker, Tony Stark]

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108.

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109.

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110.

[Flashpoint; Ed Lane/Greg Parker]

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111.

[Sherlock Holmes, Book & Granada canons]

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112.

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113.

[Bones]

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114.

[NCIS]

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115.

[No Rest for the Wicked]

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116.

[Joey McIntyre, New Kids on the Block]

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117.

[Rolling Stones/Animals]

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118.

[Harry Potter, Ron/Ginny]

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119.

[Chrono Trigger]

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121.

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122.

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123.

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124.

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125.

[White Christmas]

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126.

[Harry Potter, Artemis Fowl]

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127.

[Fruits Basket]

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128.

[Fandom is Iron Chef America, ship is Michael Symon/Cat Cora]

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129.

[Heroes cast]

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130.

[Detective Conan]

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131.

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132.

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133.

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134.

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135.

[Classic Dr. Who]

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136.

[Randy Disher, Monk]

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137.

[LotR]

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138.

[Leslie Kee, photographer for Asian stars and fashion magazines]

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139.

[Ugly Betty]

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140.

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141.

[Misha Collins, Karla]

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142.

[High School Musical]

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143.

[KAT-TUN]

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144.

[House]

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145.

[One Piece, Team Fortress 2]

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146.

[Avatar]

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147.

[After School Nightmare]

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148.

[Star Trek: TOS]

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149.

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150.

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151.

[Majin Tantei Nougami Neuro; HiguchixYako]

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152.

[The Rachel Maddow Show]

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153.

[Generation Kill]

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154.

[Stargate: SG1]

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155.

[Penny Arcade]

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156.

[Fallout 3, James]

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157.

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158.

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159.

[Digimon Adventure]

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160.

[Supernatural]

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161.

[Weird Al]

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162.

[Jason Mraz]

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170.

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171.

[RUN&GUN]

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172.

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173.

[Michishige Sayumi of Morning Musume]

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174.

[Life]

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175. [repeat]

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176.

[Cory in the House]

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177.

[Repo! The Genetic Opera/Darren Bousman/Terrance Zdunich]

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Some of the measures, like size, are universal, most of them ain't, they are subjective. It means other people have different expectations than you. Deal with it.

Yeah. Female is a fucking universal measurement, you dipshit. When people talk about "strong female characters" they are talking (as clearly the OP was) about characters who are physically female.

If we see a character that talks like a guy, fights like a guy, makes decisions like a guy and smells like a guy, fat chance it's a guy. If it's not a guy, it's just a very non-feminine chick. Which for me makes her a questionable example. Do you really want to base your point on questionable examples? It's an unstable combination.

Yes. I WOULD base my point on questionable examples, because some women have those masculine qualities. Why would you want to deny real women the chance to have someone who can model other, possibly "non-feminine" qualities for them? I've spent most of my life being fucking butch as I possibly can. I've had people MISTAKE ME for a fucking guy. You're saying "in real life that's okay, but you're not allowed to have fictional role models". Fuck you, man. Seriously.

Ok, now you said it yourself, I don't even have to argue: "some women have those masculine qualities". So why all the wank about me having said that a certain character is not very feminine? In a sense, being less feminine means being more masculine, which should make you actually more proud and more attracted to that character, right? I don't even see a problem here. If you want a masculine role model and don't want a guy to play that part, sure, you can have those "manly chicks", go ahead and have fun. Although, it won't change the fact that for me (and for some people I know) "to be a woman" means a tad more than "having been born without a dick".

I'm not complaining about the existence of those characters, you dipshit.

I'm telling you that you have no right to say "that character is not female/a woman" because you are, in essence, telling any woman who likes that character (or characters with those qualities) that their role models are not female, and by extension THEY are not a woman.

If you don't see how that works, you're an idiot.

Yeah, yeah, whatever. Apparently you have some issues that you want to sort out and I can't really help you, so this conversation is going to some funny directions. Or at least every time you answer, you try to drag it there with all kinds of details I couldn't care less. Entertaining, but only for a while.

All I said was that Sakura wasn't feminine enough (you agree) and is weak (you didn't disagree), so that makes her a bad example of a strong female character. Yeah, she is a girl technically, but in a kind of limited dysfunctional way - besides starting as a rip-off of what's-her-name-again from Hokuto no Ken. When I'm coming up with examples, I usually try to think of good, solid ones, because you know, they must really exemplify the point. And the sole idea of a butch having Sakura as a role model is hilarious by the way.

And what's wrong with a girl having a guy character as a role model? I know a couple of such girls personally, they are doing fine, thanks for asking. You have some serious trouble distinguishing real life from fiction, now don't you?

I'm sorry you're sexist and don't want to admit it.

I'll be whatever you want me to be, sugar cake.

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