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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-08-01 03:29 pm

[ SECRET POST #4957 ]


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[personal profile] feotakahari 2020-08-01 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe your tastes are a little too “discriminating,” eh?

But yeah, for shipfic in particular, there’s a certain amount of “write trope, get kudos,” no matter how irrelevant that trope is to the characters in question. Spike from My Little Pony should not have the same tropes with his love interest as Spike from Buffy the Vampire Slayer!

(Anonymous) 2020-08-01 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
WHEN WILL YOU REALIZE

THAT YOUR TASTES

HAVE TO BE MORE DISCRIMINATING!!!!!

(Anonymous) 2020-08-01 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
lmfao I could hear that kid's voice reading this :'D

(Anonymous) 2020-08-01 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
While this is true, I find that sorting by kudos is still usually a good place to start. Sure, there will be some fics up there that only have as much kudos as they do because they feature the most popular pairing, or are drabble/one-shot collections with a thousand tagged fandoms, but those tend to be easy to spot and scroll past. And if I do end up clicking on a way overrated fic, I can just backspace when I realize it's not very good. Chances are the best fics in the search category will still be relatively high kudos.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-01 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I do think that the most-kudos'd fics in a given pairing will usually be the most representative of that pairing. So it can be really useful in that sense.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-01 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Chances are the best fics in the search category will still be relatively high kudos.

This.

There is no perfect system, but sorting by kudos has always been very helpful to me.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-01 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I have tried so many times to sort by kudos in new fandoms and NEVER found anything worth looking at. I mean, people can give kudos to whatever they like, I'm glad they found something they enjoyed. But number of kudos is completely useless as a way of determining quality.

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(Anonymous) 2020-08-01 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Or you can realize that people like different things and your taste is not superior to or ~more discriminating~ than everyone else's, ya fuckin' snob.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-01 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, if you go by your average first two pages of highest kudos fics for most fandoms it seems like people really don't like different things. There should be a bingo list for all the tropes you're bound to find - high school AU, college AU, ABO fic... lol! And most of them will be generically written. I cannot think of a single fic like that which has given me an impression stronger than generic enjoyable fluff/smut/fluffy smut.

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(Anonymous) 2020-08-01 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
For me, it's more that there are a huge number of fics that I'm really uninterested in reading that get, like, 0-2 kudos and filtering those away helps. I feel bad because I'm sure there are some really great underappreciated stories that I'm missing, but it's just so much more easier to find good fic if you filter stuff out.

I don't trust fics that get tons of kudos any more than fics that get a middling amount, in most cases.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-01 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, yeah. The shit with the most kudos appeals to the lowest common denominator. And apparently the lowest common denominator likes 110-chapter fics in which each chapter is a single paragraph of poorly-written erotica.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-01 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
You're not wrong. I use the 1 kudos per 10 views or better ratio as my line. Even with that, I often find that I'll only enjoy maybe one or two of the biggest stories in any fandom.

I miss reccers. Finding a reccer whose taste you trusted was always gold.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-01 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
10% Kudos is too high. I installed an addon for AO3 that counts the ratio, and the only ones that get so many Kudos are fluff or smut and under 3000 words. More then 3% is good enough for epic length fics.

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(Anonymous) 2020-08-03 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
Heh. On ff.net I used to look for at least 10 comments left per chapter of fic to weed out higher potential fics.
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[personal profile] venusundae 2020-08-01 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
personally whenever i leave kudos it's for the author and i don't really think of readers who will see it and use it as a recommendation? that junk is too subjective. especially with fanfiction where people are looking for rly specific tropes they like. if i made it to the bottom of the fic before bouncing then i leave them a kudos for entertaining me

(Anonymous) 2020-08-01 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Personally, I filter by relationship, rating and completion status; skim through summaries; double check tags for hard nopes before bookmarking interesting-sounding ones; and when I actually get around to reading them, give them a few paragraphs to truly capture my interest (or possibly reveal an unbearable writing style).

I never even LOOK at the number of kudos or comments. Why on earth would I give a flying rat's behind whether other people pressed an almost entirely meaningless button? My fandom time is too valuable to let other people's taste or a writer's popularity to determine if I want to read a fic or not.

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People like what they like.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-01 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Discriminating does not necessarily equal better, sometimes it just means a specific taste. I'm a very picky eater and sometimes I wish I could like some of the things a lot of other people enjoy, but just because they don't suit me, other people aren't wrong for liking them. Yes, there are objective measures for some things in fics (spelling, grammar, etc.), but a lot of judgement is based on the subjective ones.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-01 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I like this troll secret.

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(Anonymous) 2020-08-01 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I no longer factor in high volumes of kudos in my deciding of what to read anymore. Time and time again I keep finding great fics, and media in general, that have little to no fanfare. Either my deviating (and deviant!) tastes suck or there are certain types of fics that the majority of fandom naturally gravitates both towards and away from.

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(Anonymous) 2020-08-01 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I pay zero attention to kudos because I tend to ship rarepairs and just finding any fic at all for the pairing is usually super exciting lol.

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(Anonymous) 2020-08-01 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't look at kudos. If the fic is tagged with what I'm looking for and the summary's decent, I read the first chapter and, if it grabs me, I keep reading.

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(Anonymous) 2020-08-02 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
This is how I feel about products with lots of 5-star amazon reviews

(Anonymous) 2020-08-02 05:15 am (UTC)(link)
To each their own. I always start by sorting by kudos, and it’s worked really well for me. Once I find a fic I really like, I’ll go to the author’s page and read more of their fics (sometimes sorting those by kudos as well).

My absolute favorite fics for a given pairing don’t tend to be the ones with the highest kudos. But most of the time really good fics will not be too many pages deep in the kudos ranks, so ultimately sorting by kudos is still a good way to find them, with a little patience.

Once I’ve read twenty or thirty pages deep into the kudos ranks, I’ll abandon that tactic and start reading through author’s bookmarks. But I always check to see how many kudos a fic has when deciding whether to read it, because in my experience, it’s rare for a fic with low kudos to be good. Fics with an average number of kudos are often quite good, but fics with a way-below-average number of kudos tend to have been overlooked for a reason.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-02 07:10 am (UTC)(link)
A thing about kudos is, they aren't a measure of how much the reader liked it. Just whether they liked it.

A fic that's okay to read on the bus and a fic that consumed my life for months both get the same one kudos from me.