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⌈ Secret Post #709 ⌋

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Yeah, but that's pretty much a strawman argument because nobody in this comm has ever said anythiing of the sort, and people who have said the kink is sick have still been attacked by defensive noncon fans.

1. There was a secret awhile back saying how someone found Wincest sick and said something along the lines of how they didn't think it was right to look at your brother and want to have sex with him and they were merging two characters having sex and the person enjoying incest wanting to have sex with their own sibling as the same thing.

Hell, there was someone a couple of days ago who posted a secret about pretending they were in Silent Hill and people immediately jumped in with, "Oh my God, are you retarded, why would you want to be raped and killed, you're obviously mental" as if this person having a fantasy about being in a certain setting meant that they wanted to be torn to shreds for real and that clearly, they're abnormal for having fantasies.

2. That aside, what does something being said in this comm or not have anything to do with it? Kinks exist outside of F!S. Kinks exist outside of internet. And people have expressed these views in my experience. Maybe it's not here and maybe you personally haven't seen any of it, but that doesn't mean it isn't out there.

3. Some people say the kink is sick and not for them, and that's fine. But others have phrased it in a way where it seems like they're accusing the person of being sick in the head themselves or that they want the same thing, which is not okay.

4. Not all people who enjoy noncon are automatically defensive just as not all people who don't enjoy these kinks are people who fail to understand the line between fantasy and reality. There are very level-headed people on both sides. So just because some kink fans have attacked those who feel the kink is sick doesn't legitimize the view that people who enjoy kinks are wrong and not normal.

1) I remember this instance, and the comment in question: It said "I can't handle incest because I can't read it without thinking about my own brother, and it squicks me out." I fail to see what's wrong with that, or how it qualifies.

Also, I don't see anything wrong with the question they asked, because in fact, they weren't implying reality: They were saying "Why would you fantasize about something like that, you're obviously mental." Reality remains irrelevent, here. They just can't comprehend how that could be someone's fantasy.

2) Because I thought I'd limit my statement to the context in which we're having this discussion, and I'm not so presumptuous as to assume I know everything that goes on outside of this community. I can only speak about what I know.

3) I can't ask this question without sounding rude or facetious, but why isn't it okay to be repulsed or confused by another person's fantasy to the point of thinking that there might be something wrong with them? The only assumption that's really being made there is that fantasies happen to come from somewhere. Personally, I don't think that everyone that has a fantasy that grosses me out is automatically fucked up, but I also think that even the most inoffensive fantasies have to come from somewhere and it's worth examining why you feel the way you feel.

To put it another way, it's a really volatile issue on both sides and I sympathize with people who have really strong initial reactions to fantasies that they can't understand. I don't think that they're being quite as judgemental as the people who have these fantasies think, because the people who have the fantasies are understandably defensive and nobody likes to be judged.

4) I never claimed that all were. But many are. Level-headed and defensive are not mutually exclusive, and it's quite possible to be both at once. People get defensive when they're being judged. It's just a human thing.

I never said the view was legitimized, but basically, you're just reinforcing my point: you're projecting. The view that the kink is wrong and not normal isn't one that's been widely espoused. Also, you could make a very good argument that it isn't exactly normal, but that's just a technical point really.

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