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⌈ Secret Post #4969 ⌋

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[Gank Your Heart]

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[final fantasy xiv]

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[Star Trek: Deep Space Nine]

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(Final Fantasy XIV)

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[Harry Styles, "Watermelon Sugar"]

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[The Untamed/MZDS]

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I agree, OP!

Yes, Shatner sometimes had hammy (and yes, beyond hammy) delivery, but not always, and while the costumes were sometimes ridiculous and the sets cheesy, the character work done by most of the cast still holds up, as do the majority of the episodes. The entire series shouldn't be judged on the basis of "Turnabout Intruder."

Edited 2020-08-13 23:56 (UTC)

Your icon always makes me smile. I love that episode so much. And yes, Turnabout Intruder was an awful episode. Also, I tend to headcanon that it isn't that women can't be captains, it is that women like her with clear mental health issues can't be captains since she as an individual clearly shouldn't be captain. She just decided that it was that no woman could be a captain, and everyone around her goes along with it.

Trials and Tribble-ations is fecking brilliant! the way they wove the footage together, and actually "explained" things like those random tribbles falling on Kirk every few seconds.

Yeah, I mean, they'd undercut the Romulan commander by having her vulnerable to Spock's seduction, but then again it was '68. Back then the TVGuide code for "a woman in an unexpected profession" was to prefix the profession with "beautiful."

Oh, the creators were absolutely sexist and they absolutely intended the message to be women can't be captains. But given the show is set in the future, and given what we know of the universe from later shows, I prefer to headcanon a more acceptable in-universe version.

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silverr - 2020-08-14 15:54 (UTC) - Expand

I recently had two old printed Star Trek fanzines from the 70's (before I was born) fall into my hands, anonOP, and let me tell you... you are not alone in thinking that Shatner!Kirk is sexy, especially in the fanart...

Very jealous!!! Love me some vintage slash fic and fanart. What’s the quality of fic like?

Different! It's somehow different from fanfic now, or even fanfic in the late 90's when I started reading it. Not the content, just the style itself seems different. I don't really know how to quantify it, but there seems to be more exposition around the dialogue, like what the characters are seeing or doing with their hands, interposed between the dialogue. Many of the stories are much more visually-oriented than I'm used to with most modern fanfic, I guess. I don't really know how to describe it better, sorry.

Agreed, OP. I think the first season in particular is ace.

I agree 100% (and I also think it's probably the case that a lot of old TV is better than we remember)

I'm re-watching the first season at the moment, and enjoying it so much. Yes, some of the the attitudes were of their day. (Though in Tomorrow is Yesterday, Uhura giving the USAF pilot a guided tour of the bridge, with lots of pointing and explanations, is lovely.)

Yes, Shatner could be a prick. But he absolutely carried that series - not saying that the others didn't do magnificently, but he was the linchpin. I love how soft his face and mannerisms are, too - not something you see very much of nowadays in lead males. And it's nice to have dilemma of the week episodes, instead Overreaching Arcs, and budget spaceships instead of the flying palaces we're getting now.

I'm enjoying my nostalgia trip immensely.

Agreed on the Classic Trek experience. I got my hands on a box set a while back and watched selected episodes throughout, and the series holds up a lot better than I expected.

But excuse you on your nu!Trek comment. Karl Urban’s Bones was amazing. ~~Criminally underused, but awesome.~~

Bones was great, though I wasn't particularly attracted to him the way I was with Kirk. He was just fun, though, and a great take on the character. Karl Urban is just a great actor who should be in more things.

I weirdly agree and disagree on the Karl Urban thing. I love him and he was criminally underused. But it felt too much like an impression rather than a re-imagining of the role, so compared to the others, it felt weak to me. Don't get me wrong - it was an amazing impression, but...it just made me miss DK mostly.

Original Star Trek is really an amazing series. Star Trek overall was a huge part of my childhood, but the original series (and all its movies) was incredibly formative.

For me it was TNG that was formative and then Voyager (my dad showed me TNG when I was really little, and then we watched Voyager together as it first aired, he was never big on DS9 so I only got into that later as an adult, and he thought TOS was a little too risque so he waited until I was a bit older to show that to me). But Star Trek in general was a big part of my childhood too. Star Trek was the beginning of my scifi love (well, that and the Heinlein juvenile books he read to me) the way the Hobbit was the beginning of my fantasy love.

I was very young when introduced to TOS, which coincided with the films. That helped hold my interest since there was so much content to explore and the characters were already solid cultural icons by the eighties. Then TNG came out and it became the show we watched together as a family (MST3K was the only other show to be like this for us). Even when my interest in scifi and Trek would wane at times during my adolescence, my parents still kept up with all of it so Star Trek is one of those things that has been a part of my entire life.

Star Trek is one of those things I can come back to and engage with as a whole instead of picking and choosing parts of it as I can be prone to doing with other properties. There's something so enduring and timeless about the philosophy and humanity in it that I find both challenging and deeply moving, and it's those themes I seek out in all scifi and fantasy.

OG Kirk has a fine ass.

He really does, doesn't he. New Kirk has a nice chest, but original Kirk has a nice ass.

*cough*
https://esteefee.tumblr.com/post/150844140777/gratuitous-butt-shot-friday-the-shore-leave

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philstar22 - 2020-08-14 04:44 (UTC) - Expand

Young William Shatner was an INCREDIBLY attractive man. (The Trek hair and wardrobe people did him no favours, but...every time I see a picture of him out of character from that era, or his Twilight Zone appearances, I just have to stop and LOOK.)

He's distractingly hot in Judgment at Nuremberg. Not really what I should be thinking about when watching that movie.

... Hah, yeah, that'd definitely be an uncomfortable time to be noticing that. (At least he wasn't playing one of the Nazis?)

I recently watched several episodes, and while definitely cheesy and dated, they were also more entertaining than I expected.

That said, I still don't find Kirk at all attractive. Spock though? Spock could get it.

I think Shatner is still bitter about the fact Nimoy got more fanmail from women than he did.

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