[ SECRET POST #4969 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4969 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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02.
[Gank Your Heart]


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[final fantasy xiv]


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04.
[Star Trek: Deep Space Nine]


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(Final Fantasy XIV)


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06.
[Harry Styles, "Watermelon Sugar"]


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[The Untamed/MZDS]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 12 secrets from Secret Submission Post #711.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe you just have bad taste in fandoms.

[(Anonymous)]

Hah, I was going to say the same thing. Sounds like a 'you' problem OP.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Not ruling that out, but when I look back on some of the fandoms I've previously found pretty decent fic for, a lot of those weren't exactly high brow either.

[(Anonymous)]

Put up or shut up

[(Anonymous)]

Little too much Happy Hour?

[(Anonymous)]

I thought it was a pretty common idiomatic expression, but maybe not!

What I mean is, either demonstrate that OP has bad taste by sharing the het fandoms and ships with scads of good writing, or don't accuse OP of having bad taste.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

What fandom are you in that has scads of good fic for any kind of pairing? All of mine follow Sturgeon's Law. Most of mine have more M/M than any other kind of fic, hence technically most of the bad fic is M/M.

Maybe the problem is me. Or maybe your standards for "good" are just different when it comes to M/M and M/F.

[(Anonymous)]

My experience, and I guess secret!OP's experience as well, is that there's something beyond the usual Murphy's Law-and-numbers, where a core of good writers exists in some M/M fandoms and ships that doesn't exist in het fandoms

But also, if you think that good fic is evenly distributed, then I'm sort of at a loss to interpret what thread!OP meant in talking about good and bad taste.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Point me at the superior het pairing fic then, anon!

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT--what makes fic good to you? Is it different from what makes fic enjoyable?

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think I set the bar too high for fic. I appreciate it when people don't have typos in every sentence, the story makes sense, and I want to keep reading.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT--those are most of my sticking points too, but the third one can vary so much from person to person as to make stuff I love, including het fics I love, utterly unreadable to some people.

For one thing, I think a lot of the het pairings I ship probably legit trigger people; some are fucked up. And people who aren't triggered might still be squicked.

I guess I don't agree that the SPAG stuff in het fics, or even the plots and settings, are obviously of lower quality than in m/m or f/f fics. That's not generally what's putting people who aren't into het fics off reading them.

I think mostly people into m/m or f/f don't find het hot, they're put off by what they see as the intrinsic power imbalance inherent in het ships, or both.

I personally enjoy the power imbalance thing. Even when I'm not into a lot of romance novel standards, the idea that the guy starts out thinking he has the power in the relationship and ends up acknowledging that the woman he loves could squash him like a bug (and he'd thank her for it) is one of my favorite tropes. If you hate that trope, it doesn't mean there are no well written examples of it anywhere. It means you hate the trope. Which is fine.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

The issue for me is there are so few fics that check the first two boxes that personal taste doesn't even factor into it. They were just bad, not well-written but unsatisfying. Lol.

I think I can enjoy most dynamics and tropes, but it depends how they're handled by the author.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Personally, I don't have many het ships that are popular enough for a lot of fic, but one that comes to mind with a fair amount of good ones is Female Hawke/Varric in the Dragon Age fandom. I don't know how about any of the other pairings in the fandom, but it's the rare fandom where het is really popular, so I would assume there's good fic out there for the other het Dragon Age pairings, too.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks for the rec, anon!

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

Emma Peel/John Steed from The Avengers and Sherlock/Joan from Elementary are the two that first spring to mind for me.

I've enjoyed many M/F pairings from The Good Place too though those come with spoiler warnings for the show and might actually be a little confusing if you've not seen the show.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks for the recs!