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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-08-20 06:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #4976 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4976 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[The Untamed]


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[Deep Space Nine]


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[Fae Tactics]


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[Umbrella Academy]


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[Ashes of Love]


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[Deep Space Nine]


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[The L Word]



















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(Anonymous) 2020-08-21 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's just the translation. While I'm not familiar with the why of how Chinese characters/the general English translations of the names (+etc.), I know that by the nature of the English language that names are always capitalized as far as I am aware. It's been done this way if only because different characters don't always translate to a new word/translations are never perfectly accurate, especially when it comes to English so certain influences are taken when it comes to names and the such as to allow for a more understandable pronunciation/meanings behind various characters.
Of course I'm not familiar with the Untamed and how Chinese linguistics are identified in the series, but the same way that you would type John Montgomery Smith as an english Standard, or Smith John in conversation in by a Japanese standard, I assume you still would capitalize each name regardless of order or number? If only because this is how the english language works.

I'm curious as to how this differentiates, if these characters names are one word/title/whatever, or if it's the number of said addresses that make a change?
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[personal profile] venerablewhite 2020-08-21 06:44 am (UTC)(link)
Their names are made up of three characters, but they make up two names: a family name of one character ("Wei") and a personal name of two characters ("Wu" & "Xian"). "Wei" is one name, but "Wuxian" altogether is also just one name, so there's no need to capitalize both phonemes in it.

Using your example, it'd be like writing "John MontGomery Smith" or idk "JackSon Smith". It's understandable, but it looks wrong and there's just no reason to do it.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-21 09:04 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

That makes a lot of sense actually. The difference of specific nicknames someone can go by without question (the way someone might go by Trish when their given name is Patricia) vs capitalizing a name within a name. Like even just the difference between Lee Anne, and Leanne, it's more of a matter of what name you're given than what you go by?

(Anonymous) 2020-08-21 09:23 am (UTC)(link)
"MacDonald" is a perfectly normal example of internal capitalisation in English-related names. As is "FitzHugh". Don't be so precious.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-21 10:46 am (UTC)(link)
Mac is a bit of a different matter because that's a name prefix that means "son of" and then follows the actualy family name.
It's still done in English as well in some cases, that's true. Still looks a bit strange most of the time because it's not exactly common.
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[personal profile] venerablewhite 2020-08-21 10:53 am (UTC)(link)
trufax anon I deleted a bit where I mentioned MacDonald so no worries I'm well aware there are exceptions 👍 They're not exactly the norm, though (and tbh I've never seen that spelling of Fitzhugh before, but you learn new something every day!)

I'm not really trying to be anything here, I'm just explaining what I've seen other people explain, bc that anon asked and it's an explanation that makes sense to me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

(Anonymous) 2020-08-21 11:29 am (UTC)(link)
Ah. No worries. (Sorry if I sounded a bit snappish.)

Translating words from one writing system to another is always going to have awkward moments, unfortunately.
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[personal profile] venerablewhite 2020-08-21 12:47 pm (UTC)(link)
it's cool, tone is always a little weird on the interwebs, and mine was probably also a little abrupt 👍

Oh, for sure, and there'll always be differing opinions on the best way to do it. I'm definitely not going to claim to be an expert either; probably all of my comments should have that as a disclaimer, lol.

*not an expert, just a fic writer