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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-08-22 03:31 pm

[ SECRET POST #4978 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4978 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2020-08-23 04:48 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, yeah, integration is a complicated process that takes time. But if your attitude is that it's just simply impossible, I think that's categorically wrong. Immigrant communities are not all the same. Some people are going to prefer to be in communities that stay closer to their own cultures, some people want to integrate more. Both of those things are fine, and they can coexist. You can't point to people in the specific environment of urban immigrant communities, and then say that all Muslim and Asian immigrants are going to act in the exact same way regardless of the environment they're in, even if they're in different economic circumstances and in a rural environment.

Are there adjustments, sure, is it a change to have rural areas be less white, but that's not the same as an erosion of a lifestyle. You say it yourself! Where people want to integrate, it's not a problem. You just close off the possibility that non-white people can ever integrate, for no good reason.

And then focusing on immigrants means that you don't focus on the pervasive economic forces and corporate domination that really does threaten to hollow out the countryside and erode rural lifestyles. And are you really defending LGBT people and the idea of liberal openness in society when you're defending someone who implicitly said that only rural white people really count as English? Is the attitude that we're all in favor of gay people, as long as they happen to be rural and white?

(Anonymous) 2020-08-23 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
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And are you really defending LGBT people and the idea of liberal openness in society when you're defending someone who implicitly said that only rural white people really count as English?

"BuT tHeY dOn'T lIkE gAy PeOpLe!!!11!" is an argument I've seen from Islamophobes so many times. It's a distraction that they think will keep people from realizing they're a bigot, but it rarely works, in my experience.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-23 09:00 am (UTC)(link)
They don't. And that should be a problem for you. Because eventually, it will be a problem for LGBTQ people.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-23 12:21 pm (UTC)(link)
You're a problem for LGBTQ people

(Anonymous) 2020-08-23 01:01 pm (UTC)(link)
If you're not worried about protecting long term gay rights then I'm pretty sure it's you that is the problem.