[ SECRET POST #4994 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4994 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Are you honestly going to argue that he is not?

[(Anonymous)]

Your opinion about whether a figure is real or not isn't the point.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

he isn't - jesus having existed simply isn't up for debate, whether he did everything the bible says he did or he was the son of god is another matter entirely, but it is a known fact that jesus was a real person who existed at some point.

regardless, my point was that you wouldn't reduce jesus, who means something to a lot of people as their religion (I'm an atheist, so,) because that makes you a fucking asshole, so why would you be a fucking asshole to the native tribes of which the wendigo is a part of their religion? it just seems unnecessary and very white privileged of you (general you)

da

[(Anonymous)]

1. Actually it IS up for debate. We have no contemporary records of Jesus's existence. All of the gospels were written, at the earliest, a few decades after his death. We have historical records of Pontius Pilate and John the Baptist (Roman admin records, Josephus's histories), but not of Jesus himself. The general state of scholarship when I was studying it (admittedly, a few years ago, but there haven't been earth shattering discoveries since) was that very probably Jesus did exist, because you wouldn't admit that your founder was crucified unless enough people knew it that you couldn't get around it, which implies a real guy named Jesus/Yeshuah was one of the thousands of people PP crucified, but there's no direct incontrovertible evidence.

2. Being a real person doesn't actually conflict with being a mythological figure. Joan of Arc, deified Roman Emperors, Johny Appleseed. The category of 'myth' is a large one.

3. regardless of the myth/not myth distinction, you can't argue that Jesus isn't frequently used in pop culture and fiction, with a wild variation in degree of reverence, despite being a figure in a living religion. 'You can't write about Native religious figures because you wouldn't write about Jesus' is a null argument because people very much do.

4. More importantly, wendigo and skinwalkers are parts of closed religious traditions, which Christianity is not, and part of the consequences of being part of a culture that did a bunch of genocide is that, if you want to do the right thing and practice anticolonialism, you have to get used to the idea that some things aren't for you to take, even if you really want to because they sound super interesting.

Like, I get it, I wish I could incorporate skinwalkers into one of my own fantasy universes....but I'm not going to, because 'it would be fascinating' is not a good enough reason to hurt people.