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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-09-19 04:29 pm

[ SECRET POST #5006 ]


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Re: Controversial Unpopular Opinions?

(Anonymous) 2020-09-19 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I do not touch LITERAL child characters in smut, but I'll be down for ages thirteen and up, given the right circumstances. I sure as hell had a sex drive at that age, and fantasized about people my age, and sometimes with adults. I don't think I was a particular outlier for this. Do I condone people fucking middle schoolers IRL? Jesus Christ, no. Do I find it hot in fiction? Yeah, sometimes.

Re: Controversial Unpopular Opinions?

(Anonymous) 2020-09-19 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
A 13 year old IS a LITERAL child. Jesus, what the fuck.

Re: Controversial Unpopular Opinions?

(Anonymous) 2020-09-19 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
A thirteen year old is a teenager, and a good number of them are biologically capable of having children. Ye gods.

Re: Controversial Unpopular Opinions?

(Anonymous) 2020-09-19 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
"If it can bleed, it can breed" is neither a good moral argument nor a good biological argument, disgusting pedo-incels on reddit to the contrary. Especially given that teen pregnancies have a significantly higher chance of maternal mortality and complications even in countries with high standards of healthcare, not to mention the permanent damage that can occur due to forcing a too-immature body to go through the strain and trauma of childbearing.

Re: Controversial Unpopular Opinions?

(Anonymous) 2020-09-19 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
It isn't about IRL teen pregnancy, it's about fictional teens having fictional sex drives at the age when sex drives develop because of that thing called puberty.

Re: Controversial Unpopular Opinions?

(Anonymous) 2020-09-19 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't care what label you use for them, a 13 year old's brain is not developed or mature enough to consent to sex. A 13 year old might think they're totally adult and grown up, but they're just not, regardless of whether you call them a child or a teenager.

Re: Controversial Unpopular Opinions?

(Anonymous) 2020-09-20 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, I fucked when I was 13 and I turned out fine? A ton of people start out that young.

Re: Controversial Unpopular Opinions?

(Anonymous) 2020-09-20 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
I very much agree with the statement that 13-year-olds are not developed enough to consent to sex with someone who is not a peer. But the fact is that some 13-year-olds are going to have sex with their peers. Maybe they're "ready" for it and maybe they aren't, but they're going to do it regardless. It's not a mark against them. It's not a mark in their favor. It's just a reality. So educating them and empowering them to make safe, healthy decisions wherever possible is, IMO, the only constructive way to handle it.

Re: Controversial Unpopular Opinions?

(Anonymous) 2020-09-20 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Oh, I'm not disagreeing with that. There's not much people can do about real life 13 year olds having sex with other real life 13 year olds if that's what they're inclined to do, and I feel like they should be educated so they can be safe.

I feel like that's a different thing than adults writing/drawing porn of 13 year olds and acting like it's a totally fine and acceptable thing to do.

Re: Controversial Unpopular Opinions?

(Anonymous) 2020-09-20 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, yeah, they're definitely two different conversations.

But for the latter argument, I happen to think that as long as no real 13-year-olds are involved, it's basically fine. I get why some people are disgusted by it, I really do. But I think antis have a very literal way of looking at kink, that is often pretty unrepresentative of what the appeal actually is for the person who's into said kink.

Re: Controversial Unpopular Opinions?

(Anonymous) 2020-09-20 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

I think this is one of the things I'm just never going to get. Personally, I have the same standards for fiction as I do for real life. I mean, I'll read about all kinds of things that I find awful, but I want them to be treated as awful. I'll read murder mysteries, but I want the murderers to get caught and held accountable, the same as I do in real life. I'm not okay with adults having sex with kids in real life, and I don't think it's okay in fiction, either. That's just the way my brain works, apparently.

Re: Controversial Unpopular Opinions?

(Anonymous) 2020-09-20 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
Personally, I have the same standards for fiction as I do for real life. I mean, I'll read about all kinds of things that I find awful, but I want them to be treated as awful.

I genuinely do get this. I'm like this 95% of the time myself, and it used to be more like 99% of the time. That's why I was an anti (or at least agreed with anti's) for a long time. Because I couldn't fathom how someone could find something hot in fiction but not have some kind of interest in it IRL, (even if they were in denial about that interest). I didn't understand how people could feel so different about the idea of a thing and the reality of said thing. That's just not how fantasy/kink works for me the vast, vast majority of the time.

It took me a long time to genuinely believe that people with dark, fucked up kinks weren't just lying about not being into that stuff in real life (or lying to themselves about it because they didn't want to admit it).

But IMO, going by all I've observed in fandom over all these years, most of those people aren't lying. Their relationship with kink is just different than mine. Less literal and direct, I guess? Less of a one-to-one, straight across thing.

Re: Controversial Unpopular Opinions?

(Anonymous) 2020-09-20 07:36 am (UTC)(link)
You said it took you a long time to realize people aren't actually lying, what changed that now you think they're not lying? I'm just trying to wrap my head around this concept because it just really makes no sense to me at all.