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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-09-19 04:29 pm
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(Anonymous) 2020-09-20 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
Fandom Old here, and I will say that yes, fandom has always been about the sex. However, the minority contingent of gen authors and authors who focused on strong, non-sexual relationships between characters was larger/more prominent 20 years ago than it is today. Unfortunately, a lot of those authors got driven off with accusations of queerbaiting and/or homophobia because their characters didn't fuck.

I'm sex-neutral to positive, depending on the day, but now that ace fandom is getting more organized I hope there's a resurgence of character-driven fic where sex isn't the endgame. Not least of all because the sex scenes are starting to get kind of samey and aren't really pushing the right buttons for me anymore.

(Anonymous) 2020-09-20 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
Another Fandom Old here and I'm going to have to disagree with that. The only real difference was that most of the explicit stuff was filtered/in separate archives, but there was absolutely every bit as much of it back then as there is now. It's not like there's suddenly much more of it than there ever was before, the only difference is that now it's okay to post explicit things more openly rather than being hidden behind passwords and separate sites/archives.

(Anonymous) 2020-09-20 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT - I never said that there's more explicit stuff than there was before. I don't believe that at all. I do think there's less non-explicit stuff than there was before. It became less valuable than the explicit stuff and people stopped posting it.

(Anonymous) 2020-09-20 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
DA
In my fandoms, its the reverse. There's tons more Gen and far less Explicit than there used to be. Years of being shamed on social media has scared a lot of authors away.

(Anonymous) 2020-09-20 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that's definitely not true in my fandoms. I just checked AO3 for one (a huge, popular fandom with over 10,000 fics on the archive) and there's three times the amount of fics rated Teen and below than there is E- or even M-rated stuff.

(Anonymous) 2020-09-20 05:33 am (UTC)(link)
Jesus, what fandom are you in. I haven't been in anything that non-porny...ever. My current fandom is 48% E-rated fics and only 27% T, Gen, or Other.

(Anonymous) 2020-09-20 05:43 am (UTC)(link)
DA - and let's be honest here. There's plenty of explicit stuff in the T tag for most fandoms. It's just the "1 finger, 2 finger, 3 finger, cock" brand of explicit instead of cum eating.

(Anonymous) 2020-09-20 05:51 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, seriously, is that really?

(Anonymous) 2020-09-20 06:03 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah really. T isn't G, it's 'Teen and Up' and basically correlates to R. Go to the T rating in any major fandom and type bottom into the 'search within results' bar.

(Anonymous) 2020-09-20 07:54 am (UTC)(link)
Uuuhh... no. If T is used that way in your fandom, it's incorrect tagging. The Mature rating on AO3 is the equivalent of R and 1-2-3-finger-cock would absolutely have to be in the Mature category at least. If it's not, report it, because T is not the right rating.

(Anonymous) 2020-09-20 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Did you sort by T rating in any major fandom and search for Bottom? Because I don't think you did.

Works aimed at teenagers have sex in them. More at 11.

(Anonymous) 2020-09-20 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes they have but if there is a description of explicit sex acts, the story does not belong under the T rating. If the sex act is described in detail (which would be the case with explicit fingering and dicks being inserted), the rating should be Mature at least. If it's filed under T instead, it's tagged incorrectly.
People tag incorrectly. More at 11.

(Anonymous) 2020-09-20 07:37 pm (UTC)(link)
It's true of lots of fandoms? The Star Wars sequel trilogy, for example, is split about half and half with slightly more T/Gen fics. Persona 5 has way more T/G stuff than E/M, as does Final Fantasy VII and Dragon Prince. And that's just fandoms that I've been into in the past few months.

(Anonymous) 2020-09-20 05:26 am (UTC)(link)
This is extremely true in my experience as a...nearly Fandom Old?
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