[ SECRET POST #5006 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5006 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Comments

Re: Unpopular Controversial Ships?

[(Anonymous)]

It's so weird to me that apparently in 2020 Spuffy is considered controversial. I shipped it back in the early 00's and never ran into any flack for it at the time. Also, it's canon, so like, do all these Spuffy haters hate the show, too?

Re: Unpopular Controversial Ships?

[(Anonymous)]

Everything in 2020 is controversial, or so Tumblr and Twitter keep telling me. No fun allowed anymore.

Re: Unpopular Controversial Ships?

[(Anonymous)]

I mean

the reasons that it's controversial are very straightforward and obvious

also, it's probably good for people to be able to be fans of a show and also be critical of it, we should be lauding that

Re: Unpopular Controversial Ships?

[(Anonymous)]

It was presented as an unhealthy relationship in canon, so I'm sure that a lot of people who liked the show hated the ship. I'm sure some of it was people justifying why Buffy/Angel should be endgame too lol.

Even within the Spuffy side of fandom a lot of people wanted to ignore the writing choices. There were lots of rewrites and AUs.

Re: Unpopular Controversial Ships?

[(Anonymous)]

Like the anon above said, that's because everything is contraversial these days.

As for lauding people for enjoying but being critical of the show.... There’s enjoying it without believing it's a good thing and then there's the 2020 version where people feel obliged to throw around the word problematic every two seconds, post critical diatribes about the pairing they apparently ship. It's so fucking tedious and doesn't actually do any good in the world.

Re: Unpopular Controversial Ships?

[(Anonymous)]

what internet were you on? spuffy was a fandom shitshow at the time

and no it's not canon, unless you mean in the literal sense that the two characters interacted; at no point did it ever become an actual relationship other than hatefucking (a concept i simply don't and will not ever get)

and hating a ship has nothing to do with hating a show and i've got no idea how you're making that leap

Re: Unpopular Controversial Ships?

[(Anonymous)]

... bangel fans are apparently a shitshow too.

Re: Unpopular Controversial Ships?

[(Anonymous)]

BZZZT wrong answer

Re: Unpopular Controversial Ships?

[(Anonymous)]

They went from enemies to allies over the course of the show and by the end they were sharing a bed and they'd both said they loved each other.

I understand why people dislike the ship but saying there's no canon relationship other than hate-fucking? Nah.

Re: Unpopular Controversial Ships?

[(Anonymous)]

they went from enemies to allies to acquaintances to vague tolerance of each other to allies to enemies to unrequited obsession to flat-out stalking to unhandled rejection to still being trusted out of desperation to confidant to hate-fuck and using to "breakup" to attempted rape to whatever the hell happened in season 7, i barely cared any more by then - the show certainly didn't - and the only time buffy said she loved him spike immediately called it out as the bs it was

interpreting touched as "look, they were in a relationship" feels like a massive reach - i get what point the show was trying to make there but it wasn't consistent with, you know, anything that had gone before in the last four seasons

Re: Unpopular Controversial Ships?

[(Anonymous)]

You seem to have lost touch with reality a bit, lol.