[ SECRET POST #5013 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5013 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

This. I mean, I don't think Adam Driver was hot as Kylo Ren, but I can see where other people would have. And turning Rey into Ray wouldn't have changed the fact that every fucking character in the franchise with the possible exception of Sheev can do better than Kylo Ren. If anything, gender-swapping Rey would have made Rey more shippable with Poe and Finn, not that fucking manbaby.

[(Anonymous)]

Ehhh that would require shippers to stop preferring white/white ships, but yeah.

[(Anonymous)]

The problem with Rey/Poe and Rey/Finn is that Rey/Finn gets nothing after the first film, and Rey/Poe never had anything. It's hard to sustain ships with that little to go on.

Fandom has a problem with preferring white/white ships, no doubt, but in this case, it's really on the creators themselves. The creators put Rey/Kylo material in the movie, and didn't put Rey/Finn or Rey/Poe material. The creators chose to keep Rey and Finn largely apart in TLJ, not the shippers.

[(Anonymous)]

kylo/hux gets a similar amount of nothing to the ships you've mentioned and yet it's huge, so your argument doesn't really check out.

fandom has an overwhelming preference for white ships, and i'm not demonizing people for that, but trying to argue that literal fact away is disingenuous at best.

[(Anonymous)]

Kylux gets plenty of scenes of the two of them hating each other, don't they? Which is all that particular ship needs.

[(Anonymous)]

The thing, most of the battle lines were drawn starting with the first film, and it devolved from there, so we can't discount the Rey/Finn material from TFA just because TLJ and TROS dropped the ball.

[(Anonymous)]

That's a fair point!

[(Anonymous)]

That ship was torpedoed by Rey calling Finn her friend at the end, though.

[(Anonymous)]

As opposed to her loathing Kylo with every fiber of her being at the end, which was....somehow not a torpedo?

Seriously though, friends to lovers is standard. It's boring, but it's standard. It wouldn't be a leap in the slightest.

[(Anonymous)]

how is that torpedoing? plenty of canon m/f ships have gone from being friends to lovers, i'm not saying that was the plan at all for these movies, but her calling him her friend doesn't nix the notion of that ship happening at all.

and insofar as fandom goes that's not a detriment at all, she already likes him because she's called him her friend, progressing that into romance in fic is easy.

[(Anonymous)]

Are you new? The creators putting X/Y material in the canon has never been a requirement of shipping X/Y.

[(Anonymous)]

It doesn't need to be X/Y material but just getting material that features the two characters together and helps define their dynamic and narrative helps a lot

[(Anonymous)]

By that logic, Chewbacca/Porg should be just as big as Kylux. People write what they want.