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⌈ Secret Post #5014 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

What I want is for people to stop saying that it's NBD and making excuses for her

When people say it's NBD and make excuses for her, I think they're wrong

[(Anonymous)]

Please, please show me where anyone said it was NBD? All I see is people saying that she probably didn't have as much control over the situation as you think she did.

It happened, it was shitty. She took public responsibility once the word got out, she apologized. What else do you want? Seriously. What more do you want? Continued, more dramatic public prostration? Anyone who even vaguely thought she wasn't the devil to prostrate themselves before you as well?

I don't even like her, so don't take this as me defending her on basis of fandom. I'm not even defending her. It's done. It's over.

[(Anonymous)]

Please, please show me where anyone said it was NBD?

Did you read the post that started this whole thread? Because it's all about how no one should be mad at Ellen and people are just looking for excuses to cancel Ellen.

All I see is people saying that she probably didn't have as much control over the situation as you think she did.

I think there are valid points to be raised there. But if you take that to the extent that she didn't have responsibility for the situation, I think that's absolutely making excuses for her conduct, where she was an executive producer of the show who was heavily involved with the production.

It happened, it was shitty. She took public responsibility once the word got out, she apologized. What else do you want? Seriously. What more do you want? Continued, more dramatic public prostration? Anyone who even vaguely thought she wasn't the devil to prostrate themselves before you as well?

I do not want Ellen to be punished more in any way. I'm not trying to cancel her. I accept that Ellen has apologized. I don't think anyone else here wants Ellen to be punished - I don't think there are any posts in this thread suggesting that Ellen needs to be punished more, so I'm honestly confused where this suggestion even came from or why it's been brought up twice now.

I just don't agree at all with the idea that Ellen doesn't have any responsibility for the mistreatment of her employees, and I don't agree with the idea that criticizing Ellen for that is somehow an overreaction, or that she deserves a pass on it, or that people are only looking for things to be offended about. I think that people who say those things are wrong.