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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-10-02 06:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #5019 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5019 ⌋

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[personal profile] fscom 2020-10-02 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
07. [WARNING for discussion of child abuse]
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2020-10-02 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I can’t find it now, but I once read an essay by a Muslim fan of the famously anti-Islam Orson Scott Card. He said sometimes even the author doesn’t understand his own book’s message.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-02 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm still trying to work this out myself. The Darkover series had a big impact and me and my writing and yet it's difficult to accept that now I know.
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[personal profile] 11thmirror 2020-10-02 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep. I grew up reading a lot of MZB, though I don't think I connected to it as closely as you, and Moira Greyland's revelations were a real kick in the chest.
I'm glad I can put my feelings about MZB and my feelings about Darkover in separate spaces in my head, but if you can't, that's okay too.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-03 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
The biggest kick in the chest for me was how many people KNEW. I read Moira's book, and so many adults knew about the abuse and shrugged about it.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-02 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I think with her books, as perhaps with JKR's, sometimes it helps to invoke Death of the Author, if you can. Separate the work from the creator.

(And I say that as someone who finds that nearly impossible.)

(Anonymous) 2020-10-03 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
In this case it might be a bit easier since the author is literally dead... I've been trying to do it for years. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't and I'm still glad that I bought most of her books I've read used.

AYRT

(Anonymous) 2020-10-03 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
That might be part of it, but then again I couldn't stomach Wagner after I found out what a colossal anti-Semite he was.

Re: AYRT

(Anonymous) 2020-10-03 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
DA - Happily I never liked Wagner, but I was very upset to learn that Degas was an anti-Semite. I always loved his paintings :(

(Anonymous) 2020-10-03 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
I just got back from reading her and her husband's wiki pages, and now I feel like throwing up.
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[personal profile] numb3r_5ev3n 2020-10-03 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
Anyone whose introduction to Paganism (or re-introduction, in my mom's case) was The Mists Of Avalon can relate.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-03 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. This. The Shattered Chain and Thendara House were really important books for me, growing up. Darkover was, I think, the first place I encountered a genderfluid character, it was... it was one of those settings that informed the way I thought about the world.

And... yeah. That.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-03 05:04 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, same here - the Darkover series was hugely important to me as an isolated lesbian teenager who didn't even know you could be a lesbian. And it's not just that she was a horrible person in real life, but if you look through her books there's lots of semi-forced incest and older person/younger person relationships which are portrayed as overall good things. It's really upsetting and horrible. I'd love to practice death of the author but I can't emotionally manage it with her yet.