[ SECRET POST #5019 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5019 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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04. [SPOILERS for Mulan (2020)]



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05. [WARNING for discussion of transphobia]



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07. [WARNING for discussion of child abuse]














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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

The issue is not primarily stuff she included in her books. The problem is her views on the subject, the people that she supports, and the transphobic narratives that she promotes and has promoted consistently over a long period of time. The reason the stuff in her book looks bad is because of the context of her views outside of fiction. It wouldn't be as objectionable without that context (I mean, people would still dislike it but it would not be as big a story).

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt
What transphobic narratives? I'm quite sure that it's a recent issue starting with the twitter post. Try as I might I can't think of anything transphobic in HP.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, I'm thinking about relatively recent stuff. What I mean is that JKR doesn't outright say that trans people are delusional and accepting trans people is bad. But she says that she has concerns - she says that she is concerned about X, Y, and Z happening - and X, Y, and Z are all standard arguments and claims and tropes promoted by anti-trans people and used to justify the conclusion that trans people are delusional and accepting trans people is bad.

"Narrative" was probably a bad word to use for that, given that she's also a writer of fiction - I should have chosen a better word.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt
Gotcha! Thanks for explaining.

[(Anonymous)]

Rita Skeeter is described in a way that, now that we know Rowling's views, is very uh. Not great. Especially since she's a very masculine woman who is illegally and animagus to invade private spaces in order to spy on people.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt.
I think that she might have a real-life prototype. It's strangely specific for a minor character. Actually it makes me think that Rowling really was abused by a trans person. I thought that it was just some backpedaling from her.

Here what I found:
Hair: blonde, set in elaborate and curiously rigid curls (GF18); after her long period of unemployment, she let it hang lank and unkempt instead (OP25).
Face: heavy-jawed, heavily penciled eyebrows, jeweled spectacles (false jewels), three gold teeth (GF18).
Fingernails: long and painted red (GF18).
Hands: large, mannish (GF18).
Carries: crocodile-skin handbag holding parchment and an acid-green Quick-Quotes Quill (GF18).
+ weirdly strong grip when she grabs Harry.

[(Anonymous)]

Or she just wanted to be that wink-wink-nudge-nudge.

[(Anonymous)]

I always figured that Janet Street Porter was the basis for Rita Skeeter.

[(Anonymous)]

Same.

She matches most of the description.

[(Anonymous)]

Looked her up and... I don't see it. Some traits, sure, but...

[(Anonymous)]

She basically has the same personality as Janet Street-Porter.

[(Anonymous)]

DA: I know this isn't what AYRT was talking about, but her newest book (you know, the mystery books she publishes under a man's name) has a man who dresses as a woman to murder people.

Which is, uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh............ arguably relevant

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[(Anonymous)]

ayrt
still... Masquerading for murder is not the same as a villain trans character. Idk, I haven't read the book. Btw isn't it a spoiler? Crime novels aren't my thing but someone might want to read it.

Rowling isn't any worse than anyone else her age regarding this topic. She's pretty progressive on gay and racial issues.

[(Anonymous)]

still... Masquerading for murder is not the same as a villain trans character.

It's not, but it plays into a lot of tropes and arguments that are used to advance arguments against trans acceptance, and it's hard to give JKR the benefit of the doubt in that regard because she obviously knows what she's doing

Rowling isn't any worse than anyone else her age regarding this topic. She's pretty progressive on gay and racial issues.

This is ridiculous and frankly kind of insulting to older people. There are people older than 50 who accept trans people (hell there are people older than 50 who are trans people). Pretending they don't exist is bizarre.

Rowlings' views are more common among people in Rowlings' age group, yes. But that's not the same thing, and it shouldn't get her a pass - especially when this is an issue she has consciously chosen to speak out about. Rowling doesn't just have those views, she is actively putting them forward.

Her age?

[(Anonymous)]

Can we cut out the ageist bullshit? I'm her age and OH is in his 70s and we know not to propogate transphobia.

[(Anonymous)]

It is when she has literally supported a store with pins and such in it going "trans men are my sisters" and "trans women are men" and "fuck your pronouns" and things like that.

https://twitter.com/DreamsRestless/status/1308484156129714177

Oh also, said site sells racist shit, so shit up about her being progressive.

[(Anonymous)]

NA: In the context of rhetoric that positions trans people as people who masquerade as another gender to get some sort of benefit?