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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-10-04 03:22 pm

[ SECRET POST #5021 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5021 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2020-10-04 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed x10000000000

I feel like a lot of humanity has been shaved off the portrayal of both men and women these days.

She was awesome. Grant's equal, brave, fierce, smart as hell, but not unrealistically perfect or stereotypical Strong Female Character.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-04 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
This reminds me of the Sam Carter (SG1) secret. She has those same qualities, and I wish we saw more of them.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-04 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes! We really really do. It's sad that we've kinda gone backwards.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-04 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't often want anything bad to happen to the child characters, but in every single Jurassic Park movie I was really hoping for some underage chomp-chomp action.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-04 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
in JP3 i wanted the kid's parents to bite it more than him tbh, he was okay, his parents were too stupid to live however.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-04 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL! I think Hollywood is bad about writing kid characters, on the whole. They put them in so the movie is "relateable" and then have no clue about how to make them into an interesting, well developed character. To be fair, Hollywood's struggling with writing interesting, well developed adult characters as well...
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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2020-10-04 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
This comment has just reminded me how disproportionate the baby sitter's death in Jurassic World seemed to be. Like, she wasn't even annoying or too dumb to live...and got one of the most graphic drawn-out deaths in both franchises.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-04 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it was hard to come back from that.
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[personal profile] chamonix 2020-10-05 09:14 am (UTC)(link)
I agree. The grossest thing isn't necessarily the death itself, it's that someone WANTED it in the movie so much they sacrificed a good deal of precious screen minutes to the drawn out, painful death of a young pretty innocent woman who clearly didn't deserve it, with no greater impact on the story. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I think that scene exists because someone in the chain gets off on that, which is just... ghoulish.
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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2020-10-05 01:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think you are reading too much into it, or if you are then I am too. It does come across like someone really relished the opportunity to have that death in the film because "look, this means we're serious - anyone can die!"

But there's just no grounding for it. The lawyer in JP getting munched had some justification in the narrative because he abandoned the kids. The guy in JPII (I think?) who gets torn in half was making a heroic sacrifice at the time. Even though you accept dinosaurs are going to eat the human characters, most of the time there's *something* in the story that supports any named person suffering that fate. In JW it was like someone said "what if we do this for the lulz" and it was just mean.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-04 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
didn't a kid get eaten (or at least gnawed on) at the start of jp2? they probably wimped out by doing it off screen but no movie was ever going to show a kid actually dying

(Anonymous) 2020-10-05 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
She didn't die. Hammond says to Ian something like, "Oh no no, she's fine of course!" after telling him that the reason the island had been found was the family pleasure crusing and the 'accident'.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-04 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
What?

The 90s had plenty of badass female characters.

Jurassic Park was very of its time. Tough ladies and dinosaurs. Staples of 90s entertainment.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-04 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
The secret says nothing about "badass" or "tough" female characters, though. It's interesting that you went directly to those descriptors when all OP said was what Laura Dern's character wasn't.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-04 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
What is the opposite of a useless terrified dumbass then?

(Anonymous) 2020-10-04 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Useful, level headed and smart? Which you can be without being a stereotypical badass. But that aside, why do you approach the subject like there are only two options available to female characters? That seems very limiting.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-04 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Being useful, level-headed, and smart sounds badass to me?

I don't think there's only one type of badass lady. The 90s had many flavours.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-04 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
er

what did lex do to create plot conflict again? and she was way more useful than tim

(Anonymous) 2020-10-04 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Not a kid person but... I disagree? Tim knew a ton about dinosaurs, Lex was smart too. Sure they had moments where they were scared, but they're kids being chased by really big things with sharp teeth that want to eat them. I'd most definitely freak out at some point too...
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2020-10-04 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Right? Terrified kids separated from the only adult they actually know, seeing someone literally be eaten and then tons of horrible things happen to them while they try to get back to safety.

They were both useful in their own way, but certainly not 'only' there to scream or be bratty. I mean - Lex kinda saves the day at the end!

(Anonymous) 2020-10-04 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I surprised myself by not hating either of the kids when I rewatched it. They were both bratty in a typical kid way but the way they both tried to save each other at various points was adorable.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-04 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed - I'd not a kid person at all but I rewatched it a couple of weeks ago and I liked those kids.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-04 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
When I saw it as a kid, I wanted them to diiiiiiiie, but wasn't so full of hatred when I rewatched it as an adult. Still, if they weren't there at all, it might be nice.