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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-10-04 03:22 pm

[ SECRET POST #5021 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5021 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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(Anonymous) 2020-10-04 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
What if multiple people are getting hurt and only some of them are getting comforted?

(Anonymous) 2020-10-04 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
That's what I was thinking!
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[personal profile] silverr 2020-10-04 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe they're using "Hurt/Comfort" as the umbrella term, with things and then thinking of Whump and Hurt/No Comfort as subsets of that?

ETA: I do agree, though: I too prefer accurate tagging, but not everyone applies the same rules.
Edited 2020-10-04 20:41 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2020-10-04 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
This made me look up the way that AO3 tagging architecture treats hurt/comfort and apparently Hurt, Comfort and Hurt/Comfort are all totally distinct tags with no relationship between them. So fics tagged with "Comfort" wouldn't show up if you filtered for Hurt/Comfort

Which is interesting, and not at all the way that I expected it to work. And it also seems like it might be a justification in certain circumstances for having overlapping tags on a fic.
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[personal profile] silverr 2020-10-04 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
See, to me splitting Hurt, Comfort, and Hurt/Comfort makes sense, but then in this case "Hurt/No Comfort" is really just "Hurt," right?

(Anonymous) 2020-10-04 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
That's correct!

I just think it's weird (to give one example) that a fic tagged with "Hurt" and "Comfort" wouldn't show up in "Hurt/Comfort"

but what are you gonna do

(Anonymous) 2020-10-05 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
ngl, the politics of the AO3 tagging system seem quite intricate and interesting in general. Shame the fanlore page on it is so out of date.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-04 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I read a fic that was tagged with both and there were scenes where one of the characters was getting hurt all the time and no comfort happened until the end, so maybe that's the rationale for tagging it like that?

(Anonymous) 2020-10-04 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
For me, this is where descriptive, idiosyncratic tagging has it's place. With a fic like that, where there was tons of hurt and only comfort at the end, I'd probably tag it Hurt/Comfort, eventual comfort, there will be comfort eventually I promise, or something like that.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2020-10-04 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
This, this, this.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-05 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for making my secret OP!

Although I understand that there are specific scenarios that can apply to having both the hurt/comfort and hurt/no comfort - my secret mostly stems from annoyance in one fandom where there were a load of fics about one pairing or a particular character with a fic tagged as both; even though reading said fics they felt more like hurt/no comfort when I was looking for something with actual comfort in it.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-05 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
If I felt my fic needed both tags I'd probably use an author's note to explain why.