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[Hiroshi Tamaki;Gackt;Tadayoshi Okura]

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[Rumor Has It/Simon and Garfunkel]

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[Chip 'n Dale]

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[Sarah McLachlan, "World on Fire"]

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[Phoenix Wright Justice for All]

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[17 Kids and Counting; Jon and Kate plus 8]

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[Persona 4]

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[Smallville]

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[Tiny Toons]

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[Alicia Sacramone]

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[House]

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[Dungeons and Dragons; Mage the Ascension]

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[Merlin]

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[Noel & Michael Fielding; The Mighty Boosh]

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[Watchmen, The Day The Earth Stood Still]

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[Shawn Spencer from Psych]

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[Merlin, Torchwood]

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[House]

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[Victoria Beckham/Posh Spice]

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[Temeraire Series]

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[Ace Attorney]

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[Captain America/Iron man]

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[Fullmetal Alchemist (Winry), Serenity (Kaylee), Final Fantasy X (Rikku), Atlantis (Audrey)]

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[It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia]

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[Digimon Tamers, Juri Kato]

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[Torchwood, Dr. Horrible, Metal Gear Solid]

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[Onani Master Kurosawa]

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[Supernatural]

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[Gossip Girl]

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[Ferris Bueller's Day Off]

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[Death Note: the Last Name]

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[Gundam00]

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[Robin Hood: Guy/Sheriff]

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[bexless's MCR Priestverse (I Have Been All Things Unholy and Staring Through the Demons)]

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[Digimon original series]

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[In the Gloaming/Robert Sean Leonard]

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[Candy Boy ONA]

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[Soul Eater]

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[Gurren Lagann]

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[Sherlock Holmes/"Sherlock"]

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[Supernatural]

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[Genevieve Cortese, Wildfire, Supernatural]

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[Mai HiME, Okuzaki Akira]

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[Sweeny Todd movie]

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[Sean Astin/Elijah Wood]

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[Silent Hill: Homecoming]

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[Trigun, Wolfwood]

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[Moulin Rouge/Sound of Music]

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[Avatar the Last Airbender, Fullmetal Alchemist, Bleach, Naruto]

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[Mock the Week; Frankie Boyle]

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[Whose Line Is It Anyway?, QI]

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So they were taking fertility drugs because they were having problems getting pregnant, or what? Fertility drugs can have a tendency to produce multiple births.

It's not just about taking fertility drugs. I don't know the circumstances, but when people receive invitro fertilization, the doctors always implant multiple embryos because typically multiple embryos fail. So they implant six with the expectation that five will fail. (And it is a really high failure rate, hence the tendency to implant multiple embryos, also because it's expensive as hell procedure. This article here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_vitro_fertilisation) cites a 27 percent live birth rate.)

Having all the embryos take is highly unusual. They'd be more likely to have one kid survive out of all of them than all six.

I don't care for either of the programs, personally, but there's really no comparison between two pregnancies which unintentionally lead to eight kids, and 18 kids intentionally.

Edited 2008-12-26 22:40 (UTC)

They went through fertility treatments because they could not get pregnant naturally. And when they found out they were going to have sextuplets, doctors did suggest selective reduction, but they decided against it, which I really can't blame them for. I myself would not feel comfortable choosing which of my fetuses get to live, and which don't.

So, they had them. And stopped. The Duggars just gave birth to their 18th child, which is just mind boggling.

Yes, they had trouble getting pregnant on their own, so they used fertility treatments. They didn't have fertility treatments because they wanted to have a billion babies.

Pretty much every episode describes their financial woes and shows Kate and Jon being run ragged. It certainly doesn't look like they were prepared for a big family. According to my Google-Fu, the odds of having sextuplets is 1 in 3,393,040,643.

Link (http://www.fanpop.com/spots/jon-and-kate-plus-8/quiz/show/77695). The source is not academic, so you can take it with a grain of salt if you wish.

But they had two kids before they had trouble getting pregnant? A few other people commented that they already had children before deciding to have a third.

I agree it's not the same thing.

No, they had to use fertility treatments to get pregnant the first time as well, as Kate couldn't get pregnant otherwise. They had a set of twins, and then later when they tried for one more (they acknowledged the small chance that they might end up with twins again), they had six.

Cue flails.

Ok, I love exposition and everything, but I think I spending too much time talking about some stranger's uterus. I hope I answered your questions correctly, I actually only saw a handful of episodes.

You guys were great at answering my questions, thanks. I agree that both families aren't really going about it the same way.

she had to use treatments both times. they DID explore adoption before the treatments, but they were too young and just married that they weren't approved.

kate has PCOS, which can cause issues getting pregnant naturally because of the cysts on the ovaries. lots of women, when finding out that they have PCOS, are told that they'll never be able to have children. as a woman who has a risk of having PCOS (last doctor visit told me no, but if i don't start taking care of myself, it's a possibility), i give major props to them to try anything to have kids. i would go the same route as kate to get treatments in order to have a family. some people on treatments have one and done, while others have multiples, while others still don't have any. so i think that they're blessed that they were able to have even one, let alone eight.

but yeah, this is vastly different than the dugger's. john and kate have said they're done, and really i don't blame them. michelle just needs to close her legs.

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