[ SECRET POST #5025 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5025 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

Problem there is you gotta fake your death every half century or so. Not an issue for wandering mercenaries

That said I agree, I love immortality as a conceit. Like, remember how good Hob Gadling was in Sandman? That ruled.

[(Anonymous)]

I dunno... imagine some old farmer in rural Wales, say, keeps sheep, lives in a hut in the hills, and everyone knows he's been there forever... I feel like there are places where immortality can just become sort of background knowledge. Like yeah, everyone knows that Ioannes in the library has been there for way longer than anyone else - but you don't *talk* about it, he's the only one who knows how the filing system works!

[arashinoookami]

I love this idea!

[tabaqui]

Or just be a migrant kind of person. Move on to another town or city or country. In those days, going 100 miles or so was enough to put you far, far away from anyone you had probably ever met.

[(Anonymous)]

No kidding. We've been doing family genealogy on Ancestry, and except for a few rare moves across the country, most people in my family can be tracked within 10 miles of their birth place for their whole lives. Travel was expensive and all my ancestors were super poor.

[tabaqui]

Wow! That's kind of amazing, really. :D
My dad's family were Portuguese, mostly from the island of Madeira, so - fishermen & sailors. They got around.

[bur]

Surely after centuries one would pick up forgery and fraud as side hobbies to remake identities.

[(Anonymous)]

I suppose if you were a rich immortal, you would need to forge things in order to transfer your wealth (unless it was all easily transportable, like diamonds). But poor people or wanderers? Meh. Identification papers like even birth certificates are really quite a modern invention.

[(Anonymous)]

It's still a hassle!

[(Anonymous)]

I agree. I know it's a plot thing, but it's kind of dumb to assume they'd all be absolute badasses just cause they're immortal. It might be more fun if the new girl were pretty shit at fighting or just not interested in it. I like the immortal accountant thing.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, but all of them were specifically warriors *before* they became immortal. Booker, the forger and deserting soldier, is the closest to a non-combatant and he was still part of a major war. That's why it would be cool to see people with a different background doing their thing for millennia, rather than just focusing on the warriors.

[starzki]

From what I could gather from the movie, it seemed like those "chosen" to be immortal were specifically soldiers to begin with. First, it doesn't "kick in" until you die your first death. Most librarians and accountants won't die until they're old and it would really suck to be 92 forever instead of 29 forever. Second, and we'll see how this plays out in a sequel (if there is one) or in the comics, but the immortals have always banded together under Andy's leadership and decide together to use their combat skills for good when they can (which has far reaching consequences).

Honestly, immortality sounds horrific. I don't think that I could just be a librarian forever. I would go insane. The Old Guard, again under Andy who has probably dabbled in a bazillion different jobs, seem to realize that to make their immortality actually MEAN something, they need to use it (risk their lives) for good. Or else what's the use?

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

to make their immortality actually MEAN something, they need to use it (risk their lives) for good

But it's such a narrow definition of the good you can do for the world being combat-specific. Especially given the bit where Chiwetel Ejiofor realizes the people they saved contributed in all these different ways- it would be just as possible for a doctor/nurse/social worker/caretaker to save people.

[starzki]

Those are all relatively modern professions. Prior to the movie, the latest immortal was Booker who first died at a time when doctors and nurses were just beginning to figure things out. And before him, it was Nicky and Joe who first died in the 11th century before books and reading were even much of a thing.

I don't disagree with you, but I think soldier/fighter was what was chosen because that's honestly something that has persisted through time that has made some kind of difference. I imagine being an immortal and seeing what kind of knowledge "sticks" is like seeing if Blu Ray or DVDs are what you should buy into.

[51stcenturyfox]

I'd enjoy that, but I think immortals just turn into mercenaries or similar eventually because they can't die. It's sort of like just sitting around and ignoring crime if you're a superhero. It would be weird.

Maybe a lifetime or two chilling in a castle like a vampire would be nice, but eventually...

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, but they don't all have to be fighters for that, even. They could take a Leverage approach, and have some be fighters and some be thieves and some be con artists - if you had centuries to learn anything you wanted, wouldn't you learn as much as you could? As many different things as possible? I would.

[(Anonymous)]

They could equally well become healers. No matter what terrible diseases their patients have, they wouldn't die from it themselves!

[51stcenturyfox]

Good point!

*walks into outbreak quarantine area without a gas mask*


In theory though, they could get very ill, suffer, die, and then resurrect, so hopefully they'd develop immunity the first time that happens.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, it is kind of weird that the only known immortals are all young(ish), hot, fit warriors. (Seriously, though, such wonderful opportunities for world building. I wish it was adapted into a series instead.)

[starzki]

As I said above, I think this is the WHY immortality was bestowed upon certain people. I think the power that gives this ability to people WANTS them to fight and specifically chooses fighters and brings them together for this reason.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I was mostly joking, but I think that's a fair interpretation. In the movie, at least, there was a focus on making it look like there was some sort of bigger force driving their actions.

THAT SAID, as others have noted, there are many ways that people could contribute to that bigger goal outside of military-style fighting (and it was not at all unusual to die at younger ages back in the day, if that were a concern) so it seems kind of short-sighted to limit the immortality power to one type of skillset.

[starzki]

I don't disagree, but as I said above, the scope of immortality might change this is a bit. Over centuries and millennia, very few modern professions that currently help people existed back then, at least with our current understandings. And who knows what will persist into the next 1000 years? Sadly, there will still probably always be fighters and soldiers.

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt, but you know that doctors and artists and accountants have existed for thousands of years, right? there's lots of ways of helping people that don't involve stabbing.

[(Anonymous)]

Previous anon - yes, exactly. Something doesn't need to be a profession as we know it today to be an important and useful skill.