[ SECRET POST #5026 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5026 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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08. [SPOILERS for Digimon Adventure: Last Evolution - Kizuna]



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12. [WARNING for discussion of transphobia, harassment]
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[(Anonymous)]

Oh, are we cancelling comedians for making jokes now? Is that where we are?

[(Anonymous)]

Depends on the joke

[(Anonymous)]

Is that something new? Person A is free to say whatever. Persons B, C, D, E, F, and such are free to be like 'wow you're kind of a douche' and stop doing anything to support or promote Person A... since time immemorial.

Isn't that where we've always been?

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt but +1

Only now it's happening to people that were formerly popular, so people are complaining.

[(Anonymous)]

Ah yes, attack helicopter tier jokes are so fucking funny and not lazy. If anything, he should be cancelled for being a hack at this point.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, yeah. It's not a new thing to happen.

[(Anonymous)]

For the record, I'm asking this because OP seems to be comparing a person who makes jokes to people who have done actual predatory things. So where exactly is the line? Do we just stop making jokes about anything because it might offend somebody?

[(Anonymous)]

We try to evaluate what was said, taking into account the context and using our best most mature judgment as rational human beings, the same way we do with anything else

[(Anonymous)]

Where have you been? This isn't new.

[(Anonymous)]

lmao, we've been there for a while! Look at the Chapelle drama!

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's a lot of different things - I think it's the fact that he's a comedian, the fact that he has had a longstanding reputation for being kinda out there (in both good and bad ways), and the fact that there was such a long break where he was out of the public eye and not really doing standup at all. I think a lot of people who might otherwise have objected to his newer material just wrote him off as past his prime and stopped paying attention. And there probably is an element of just like... he's Dave Chappelle.

Comparing him to Rowling specifically, I mean, I think he is much, much less famous and wealthy than Rowling. And it doesn't seem like he's on the Internet actively wading into culture wars the way that Rowling is.

[(Anonymous)]

People HAVE called him out for that shit though, it's just that his chud audience is in the majority so it leads to nothing but him being praised to hell and back for being /their guy/.

[(Anonymous)]

This. And honestly, I think this is something that a lot of people miss when they try to compare [problematic person] with Rowling. Rowling made a career out of having a children's book series that had pretty obvious anti-prejudice metaphors, so the people who paid attention to her takes were always going to be largely young and largely liberal. Which became an issue when, you know, she decided that transphobia was the hill she wanted to die on. Dave Chappelle simply doesn't have that same demographic - among other things, he has an older fanbase who are less likely to see that kind of material as an issue.

[(Anonymous)]

Because he’s a black man and she’s a white woman

[(Anonymous)]

1) JKR isn't cancelled in the real world and 2) the internet has called Chappelle out. They have different fanbases as well. A lot of online HP fans are people in their 20s who now identify as OwO~kweer**UwU and Chappelle fans are whiny assholes who complain about comedy becoming politically correct.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't even know who this is, so like... cancel him if you want? I'm not gonna notice
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[(Anonymous)]

He is a man. Men don't get public rape and death threats when they say something people find upsetting. No one told Dave on twitter they were going to rape him to death but Rowling got hundred of rape and death threats.

There is a still a huge double standard. Women have to be kind, sweet, silent, and never say anything that hurts anyone feelings or she is a bitch, c_nt, needs taught a lesson, etc.. But men are brutes and we shouldn't expect them to be human. It is all patriarchal bullshit.

[(Anonymous)]

You're not wrong. :/

[(Anonymous)]

Yup. This.

It's only a fraction of why cancel culture is such bullshit.

[(Anonymous)]

We know it's not because he's Black, too many Black women get violent, sexist abusive language thrown at them when they say something "out of line". People will always react to women more violently than men. Always.

I think a small part of why JKR gets so much abuse is because HP fans feel personally betrayed by her. These people became overly attached to HP and a lot of online fans identify as some flavor of kweer, JKR calling a female a female was like their best friend punching them in the guy.

But in reality, neither one of them is cancelled, they still make a boatload of money for their corporate partners. The reason for the cancellation of some celebs was because they stopped making money. Actual criminals like R. Kelly and Harvey Weinstein got away with it for years because they brought in a bunch of money, no one is going to cut off a couple of profitable people just because they said some so-called offensive words.

[(Anonymous)]

Who the fuck is this?

[(Anonymous)]

It's because she claims to be part of the progressive movement, and he really doesn't. He's just a dude with some feelings and he shares those feelings, and that's all he's ever presented himself as. That makes the standards very different for him vs her. We've got higher expectations of people who align themselves with progressive movements than people who don't.