[ SECRET POST #5038 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5038 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think it's that big of a deal. It doesn't change their physiology either so it's not the same as genderbending at all.

I get if they randomly inserted a bunch of racism because Harry's all of a sudden not white, but other than that I don't see how it make any difference at all.

[(Anonymous)]

Disagree. The experience of being a visible minority isn’t nothing. Adding that to a character’s lived experience is fairly significant, IMO.

[(Anonymous)]

This. You can't just racebend a character without changing pretty much their entire life experience. And if you do, you're woefully naive and doing it for all the wrong reasons.

[(Anonymous)]

+ 1

[(Anonymous)]

OP - Yes, this is definitely a part of it for me. I come in with a clear sense of the character's lived experience and how it has shaped them. Then, with a racebend, I have to subtly but pervasively rethink their lived experience. And since I will freely admit that racial prejudice is not one of the forms of prejudice I have experience with, and having cultural roots that are not broadly reflected by the culture around me is also not something I have experience with, my deeper understanding of the character can feel a little blurry.

[(Anonymous)]

Also, not every culture reflects/discusses/thinks about every concept in the exact same way. Our cultural upbringing tends to shape the specific perspective we approach things from. I don't even mean religion or anything like that (although that can be a part of the picture as well). I mean just general cultural trends in perspective and philosophy.

[(Anonymous)]

You're right, having a POC who didn't experience typical racism for the setting would be so unrealistic. Unlike evil cartoonish foster families who make a child live under the stairs and go to great lengths to make their neighbors unaware that he exists despite the massive inconvenience and trouble with social services that would cause. Also unlike wizards.

[(Anonymous)]

Racism isn't the only way one experiences their race, you ninny.

[(Anonymous)]

And not all racism is blatant or obvious, either. It's things like watching someone walk in at work, look between me (white) and my black coworker, and choose to come over to me for help instead of them. Those sorts of things are part of being POC.

[(Anonymous)]

The PoC experience isn't just racism you know.

There's a lot of stuff that racebenders who are fishing for woke points would never bother researching.

[(Anonymous)]

Which is how you can tell that the majority of racebenders are in fact white folks fishing for woke points

[(Anonymous)]

It's so incredibly easy to spot them.

I'd rank it as easy as spotting an american HP fic writer lol

[(Anonymous)]

Not in general but a POC Harry Potter with an Indian father (which is usually the POC parent chouce) growing up in a family like the Dursleys in a white suburban neighbourhood... that would be a hell of a lot of racism.

[(Anonymous)]

Are you speaking from experience?

[(Anonymous)]

This is why (as a POC) I tend to feel really cynical about race bending. Doing it via fanart is super easy and scores major woke points. You can get away with doing zero research or giving any thought to what it truly means for a popular white character to have instead grown up as a racial minority and how that will have inevitably changed their experiences and development.

[(Anonymous)]

If you think the difference between genders is significant but the difference between races are not...I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that you're white.

DA

[(Anonymous)]

I'm white and female and have put up with other white women saying genderbending can't work because the female experience is so unique and no male character could have it. I, meanwhile, can perfectly imagine having the life of oodles of male characters. Not every woman thinks of her life in terms of her oppression and I'm sure not every POC does either.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

Once more for the people in the nosebleed seats: EXPERIENCING STRAIGHT UP RACISM IS NOT THE ONLY FACTOR IN A POC'S LIFE THAT MAKES IT DIFFERENT FROM GROWING UP WHITE.

The fact that this has been repeated so many times to various anon users is proof that many people have a really simplistic view of racebending and race in general.

[(Anonymous)]

...the fact that you can only think of racism as the sole (and apparently negligible) factor in how a POC's life would be different is quite sad.

SA

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah- sorry. I know I'm late, but something tells me some of you hard-pressed fuckers are desperate for some sort of rebuttal to your pearl clutched sensitivities that I've apparently steamrolled over in the less of a handful of words I offered to the actual OP of this secret.

Get a reality check and realize I'm talking 'bout fictional wizards, in a fabricated environment. If you are so obsessed to figure why deliberate Muggle racism matters more than established continuity.
If you expect every Indian!Harry story should devolve into racism... then perhaps you should look at yourself first before you judge the people who write said stories without the boatloads of angst and racism you both expect and then hate them for.

It's one thing to disagree with a canon rational interpretation, but it's a whole 'nother to be offended by the very idea of Harry being half Indian. It's a genuine identification. It changes nothing- Harry it still treated like absolute shit by Vernon, the level of which is a direct result of bigotry. Hiding him away under the cupboard, assaulting him on the swing as he mourns Cedric's death- all of it enforces the idea that more than just being a wizard, that they were trying to hide his ethnicity as well.

The insistence that racism of this type should proceed unto fictional realms, into a wizardry society that already has its bigotry laid out on a fucking plate, via the purity of bloodmagic- is the most racist sentiment of all.
You people /insist/ that there is no way a fictional society could every look at Harry other than his skin colour. It's both pathetic and racist as all hell. On his own Harry is seen simply as an object, an ideal- 'the boy who lived'. He's more fantasy than human in the wizarding world and treated worse than dirt in the muggle...
So tell me how /EXACTLY/ your prejudice fits into a story where canon events already circumnavigated whatever arguments you think you still have left? Really.