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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-10-21 06:18 pm

[ SECRET POST #5038 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5038 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2020-10-22 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Black Hermione I have no strong feelings about one way or the other (unless the creator make a huge annoying fuss about it) but Indian James/Indian Harry being a massive thing bugs me because unlike Black Hermione, it came out of NOWHERE and the sole explanation I've ever been able to dig out of anyone is "well, there are a lot of Indians in England and the books don't say 'James and Harry are not Indian' in those precise words." I usually like racebending art a lot, but I don't care for the fact that one particular racebending which has absolutely no basis in anything whatsoever has somehow become the default pretty much everywhere (at least everywhere I go in fandom myself.) Black Hermione makes sense because she's been played by a Black actress and it was a whole thing that even JKR got in on. Indian James/Indian Harry doesn't come from anything except "lol can't disprove a negative." I think I'd be a bit less annoyed if I hadn't seen as many people being precious about it, or acting like it's somehow suspicious to not draw/headcanon Indian James/Indian Harry, or acting like it ought to be treated like canon. I am dead sure that all of these people are white, based on their everything, which makes it worse. If it was Indian people doing it at least it would be out of wanting to see themselves represented, rather than trying to play "woker than thou" games.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-22 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
And lo! the sort of person you have mentioned is just bellow your own comment.
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[personal profile] chamonix 2020-10-22 11:19 am (UTC)(link)
I absolutely agree with this. If the James/Harry racebending was done in a way that actually leaned into the social and cultural history of the UK and its Indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi community, I'd actually be really interested to read that. But I get the feeling that most of this racebending is done by white Americans who have no fucking clue about UK social culture.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-22 12:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I read a James/Lily fic that did good work with this. They explained their early relationship as two people between worlds.

In the Wizarding World James is a rich pureblood and Lily is a Mudblood diluting his bloodline.

In the Muggle world Lily is a proper girl and James is an unworthy Pakistani diluting her culture.

Of course the author then deleted it.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-23 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
+1,000,000

I've said it elsewhere, but I actually like racebending and stuff like that, but only when it's used to explore interesting new ideas - like whether an aggressive white character would be so aggressive if they were black, or whether a socially incompetent character would be so awkward if they were female. The ways that social expectations influence a person's upbringing and development. That's interesting.
"Make them brown for Representation" isn't.