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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-12-28 05:09 pm

[ SECRET POST #723 ]


⌈ Secret Post #723 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 13 pages, 312 secrets from Secret Submission Post #103.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 2 - doing it wrong ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

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[identity profile] sarolynne.livejournal.com 2008-12-28 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I could not give two shits about your fandom if I tried. I looked at it. I couldn't get into it. As far as that goes, end story.

But.

I am so. So. SO. Sick of seeing people's experiences being diminished by claiming that they have something to do with "political correctness." It's dismissive and obtuse. People do not dislike it because it's "politically incorrect." They do not get offended because they're trying to be "politically correct." They are offended by something they personally find, for whatever reason, offensive. Agree with them, disagree with them, argue with them, I don't care. But please don't belittle other people's experiences as something so shallow.

I swear, I would be the happiest person in the whole world if the term "politically correct" spontaneous disappeared from both vocabulary and consciousness.

Re: 153

(Anonymous) 2008-12-28 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
This, thank you. Though I'm not into the fandom, the whole defensive attitude and writing people who dislike aspects of it off as being PC is really stupid.

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[identity profile] vivalanaomi.livejournal.com 2008-12-28 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, exactly! Like my thoughts on yaoi could ever be used as a way to navigate politics.

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[identity profile] omorka.livejournal.com 2008-12-28 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
IAWTC. Hard.

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[identity profile] poisontea.livejournal.com 2008-12-29 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
This. I love the series and fandom from what I've seen so far, and the attitude of the OP is one of the most disgusting things I've seen. It's worse than the people who "judge all Hetalia fans," if only because it's easy to write people who are being stupid and assholish off without feeling like you've lost much. People like that who mock and look down on the fact that other people are actually offended and bothered by things? That's utterly contemptable and horrible and. Urgh. No words.

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[identity profile] sarolynne.livejournal.com 2008-12-29 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeeeeah. I wouldn't defend people who generalize bad behavior to a whole fandom, or make it sound like everyone who likes the source material is disturbed or doesn't care about history. That's not cool either. Stuff like this, though... it's like "how dare you be offended by something I like!" It just totally lacks perspective.

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[identity profile] beandelphiki.livejournal.com 2008-12-29 09:11 am (UTC)(link)
THIS. Just. Yes. I absolutely loathe the term "politically correct" for this reason.


(And OP, if you were ever puzzled as to why even Polish jokes might be genuinely offensive to some people, here's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Jokes) a Wikipedia briefer on the history of anti-Polish prejudice.)

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[identity profile] sarolynne.livejournal.com 2008-12-29 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
It seems like it's just a way for people to pretend other people's views aren't valid, doesn't it? I hate it so much.

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[identity profile] wanderingscribe.livejournal.com 2008-12-29 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, thank you. I mean, I like the fandom and all and I've probably been one of the loudest people crying for the wank to stop here on f!s, but hell, I'll admit right now that some of the 'for' secrets are just as offensive as the 'against' at this point.

People, it's okay if someone doesn't like your fandom. They have reasons just as you have reasons and as long as we can be civil about it, we can still get along with each other. And aside from the asshole who keeps spamming f!s with troll secrets, most people against have gone above and beyond to be civil. Let's give them the same courtesy.

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[identity profile] sarolynne.livejournal.com 2008-12-29 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
It's definitely one of those things where offensive people have been on both sides. And I guess that makes both sides defensive, and that doesn't help much.

The whole thing is kind of silly, really. It just seems like really strange to get so worked up about liking or disliking a comic. (At least, you know, until someone starts being an asshole about it.)

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[identity profile] wanderingscribe.livejournal.com 2008-12-29 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, yeah, in hindsight I guess I can agree. At the time most of the early offensiveness was going on, I kind of lost my head, though. It wasn't that I couldn't accept that someone didn't like my precious; it was more that someone had to be such a judgmental asshole about disliking it.

But now a lot of people have shown that not all Hetalia dislikers are like that, so I've gotten over some of the defensiveness and let things go. The troll poster is still fail, though.