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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-10-25 04:07 pm

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(Anonymous) 2020-10-25 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
ngl I do too, but I also silently judge people who are actually scared by horror movies (not jump-scares, which is just, you know, being startled by the unexpected), for similar yet opposing reasons.

I don't find horror movies the least bit frightening because I know it's a movie. I can't suspend my disbelief no matter how hard I try. It's made by people putting on masks and jumping out at other people on camera. But the nature of a movie means that if I want to enjoy it for what it's trying to be, I have to suspend my disbelief.

So torture porn. It doesn't matter how much I know it's just FX and acting, it's much harder to break out of suspension of disbelief. Probably because it's more "real?" As in, an absolutely terrible person can do those things to another person because in the past they sure have done even worse to other human beings and with more primitive tools no less. I think too much, instead of not thinking enough.

Horror and comedy both are so reliant on the viewer's own subjective interests - in what scares them or what they think is funny - that if you can't suspend disbelief just right, it doesn't work for you. People judge other people's taste in comedy all the time, in the "what do you mean this isn't funny? What's wrong with you?" sense, so we might as well do it for horror too.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-25 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
omg u serious?

(Anonymous) 2020-10-25 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
The more "real" the horror is in a movie, the less scary it is to me, specifically because it doesn't feel like a threat. "Real" horror invites rationality, and rationally, I know the odds of anything like that happening to me or anyone I love are microscopic. If I'm gonna be scared of that, I may as well never leave my house, since I'm a thousand times more likely to get hit by a vehicle and end up in months of painful traction than I am to be abducted and tortured by a serial killer.

Whereas supernatural horror compels you to not be rational. If you accept the story on its terms and allow it to be true in your mind, the world is no longer safe. The world is a dark place that probably will tear you apart when you close your eyes. You can't rationalize the irrational.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-25 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Really? For me it's the exact opposite. I believe in the supernatural but can rationalize myself out of it--like, if an evil ghost decides to haunt me, there are ways to get rid of evil ghosts, so no big deal.

On the other hand, seeing someone "real" in a horror movie only serves to remind me that it COULD happen to me, because it HAS happened to others. Hell, even the thought of someone really enduring something like that turns my stomach. Odds don't mean a damn thing, because everyone who ends up in a horrifying situation never thought they would either.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-25 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
*shrugs* Odds mean everything to me. If the horror is real, it's bound by real-world rules and real-life odds. I'm not afraid of flying in an airplane, either, because I know I should be more afraid of the ride to the airport than the flight.

Once something isn't bound by real-world rules and real-life odds, all bets are off. The simple fact of being afraid of it may be enough to make it happen. Who knows how it works. If a monster comes for you, it comes for you. You probably can't fight it. You're probably doomed from the start.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-26 10:12 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT but that's exactly the part that freaks me out--yeah the odds are in my favor, until they're not, you know? It's something that is unlikely to happen, but absolutely COULD, and if it did, there's nothing I could do.

Whereas for a supernatural threat, the odds are equally low, but supernatural monsters usually have some kind of rules for them, too. Hell, usually more rules than "realistic" monsters, and tools that work on them. Ghosts and demons are terrifying, but can be defeated by prayer--not so with a psychotic serial killer.

I'm not saying you're wrong of course, I'm just fascinated by the difference in perspective here!

(Anonymous) 2020-10-27 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah!

I love movies about vampires and stuff, because I don't believe in them. Serial killers, on the other hand...