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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-10-25 04:07 pm

[ SECRET POST #5042 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5042 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2020-10-27 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
How, though? Since LGBTQ people's experiences vary so much - and for that matter, the way straight people write LGBTQ people varies so much - we don't even know what "sounds like a straight person wrote it" really means. That's not very substantial without specific concrete examples. Regardless, learning the fact that a straight person didn't write it should require some self-examination on the part of the critic about their own stereotypes and pre-conceptions about "authenticity" might be.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-27 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
Do they mean "this doesn't ring true in my experience?" Well that might mean the critic needs to think a little bit more deeply about the true hugeness of the breadth and variety of experiences, and how those experiences are written by people within the community.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2020-10-27 04:46 am (UTC)(link)
one way oppression operates is to control the social narrative regarding some social construction. everyone within the culture learns the narrative, regardless of where in the construction you fall. it's just easier for those who fall in the negatives of that narrative to understand that it's bullshit. even when that control of the common narrative slips, the changes allowed are still noticable as common with the people with some social power within the construction.

"this sounds like a straight person wrote it" is identifying that social consensus of narrative.

(Anonymous) 2020-10-27 05:26 am (UTC)(link)
"this sounds like a straight person wrote it" is identifying that social consensus of narrative.

That sounds like you think there is only ONE social consensus of narrative that everyone understands alike. There is not just one. There are many. They are regional, racial, gender-specific, and class-based. The allowable signifiers of queerness in one particular high school might be very different from those just 10 miles away, or just 10 years ago, or between different culture groups sitting 10 feet apart.

I do totally get your point about dominant cultural narratives. But judging every queer story against those narratives does nothing but give those bullshit narratives more power than they deserve.

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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2020-10-27 06:09 am (UTC)(link)
sure, and if that's the case then that's a response, (that again doesn't actually require you to identity yourself to refute). but a) while this is changing rapidly, what is published does not tend to be that varied and does tend toward one social consensus of narrative and b) most critical theory with lenses that consider social construction understands a).