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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-11-01 01:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #5049 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5049 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2020-11-01 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Another casualty of the death of Fandom_Wank, I have no idea where even to look!

And, like, who the fuck even writes het A/B/O fic? It's got to be a smallish group, an insider would definitely know!

(Anonymous) 2020-11-01 08:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I wish f_w was backed up somewhere. So much juicy stuff got lost.
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[personal profile] babydraco 2020-11-01 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I've wondered who writes that. Because I don't get it...
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[personal profile] type_wild 2020-11-01 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
The Miraculous Ladybug fandom has a handful of ridiculously fluffy het ABO that's maybe PG-13 at worst. It's... very different from most ABO I've seen in slash fandoms, but it actually works as some weird gender-bending take on periods or something.

(Anonymous) 2020-11-02 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry w h a t

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[personal profile] feotakahari 2020-11-01 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I just dig through so much garbage trying to find het ABO. It’s easier to find people on Tumblr complaining that ABO is secretly het. Finally came up with this: https://archiveofourown.org/series/723270

(Anonymous) 2020-11-02 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Lmao you'd be surprised

As someone who generally reads het (and it's OC/MC) based, I can tell you now there are quite a few fandoms with this in the pocket. Particularly Alpha MC with Omega or Beta OC. They tend to be one shots, some have a few more chapters.

It's something I'm into at times for a number of reasons if I'm in the mood. It boils down to everyone is extra aroused, leads to dubcon, and other kinks that work for a number of people, especially if the OC is resistant (although sometimes it's more of a "being taken care of/absolute object of desire" element that is the angle taken). Eh different folks different strokes.

(Anonymous) 2020-11-02 05:30 am (UTC)(link)
Ok, as a source of dubcon/fuck-or-die drama it makes sense.

To me abo is mostly about pregnancy and societal changes, so you can understand my confusion.

(Anonymous) 2020-11-02 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
I've seen some in Harry Potter Draniome fandom.

It's not a huge thing. It's different than all the werewolf, or veela fic you get though. But, err, I think you see everything in Harry Potter at least once.

(Anonymous) 2020-11-02 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
RA

I almost want to say I've seen that ABO éléments (at least the Alpha stuff) involved with Lupin or Fenrir, but maybe I'm just imagining it.

But I've definitely read ABO Dramione at least once.

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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2020-11-02 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
I mostly see it in side couples in m/m abo but it's there

(Anonymous) 2020-11-01 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees.

So much

I want someone to investigate
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[personal profile] kribban 2020-11-01 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Same!!
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[personal profile] sabotabby 2020-11-01 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Same! This drama is giving me life and I want more.

(Anonymous) 2020-11-02 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Perfect icon for this comment, just have to say <3 he was a favorite (if not *the*).
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[personal profile] sabotabby 2020-11-02 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
You know El would be all over this.

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(Anonymous) 2020-11-01 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
well,

okay she was writing Bane m/f A/B/O stuff for dark knight rises. But was she on wattpad or AO3, I can't remember what the video said.

Who is in that fandom? Someone has to have the deets.

Those videos made me laugh soooo hard.

(Anonymous) 2020-11-01 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
huh.
I'm not sure why her reporting on the old het abo fiction drama as a, well, youtube vloger, means that she was involved in any drama when she was in fandom?
I kinda see what you mean, OP, all this snark and all, but I personaly mostly see it as coming from Lindsay's years as vloger/Nostalgia Chick/etc, not necessarily experience in past fandom drama

(Anonymous) 2020-11-01 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
No, they're talking about drama from Addison Cain's fanfic days, not Lindsay's. I don't think Lindsay's ever written fanfic.

(Anonymous) 2020-11-01 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Lindsay wrote "Phantom of the Opera" fanfic on FanFictionDotNet back in the day. And she was big into "Phantom" fandom. She's apparently still friends with people she made friends with in that fandom.

I know this because she talked about it on an occasional podcast that she does about musical theater that she does with some friends of hers.

Here it is: MusicalSplaining (link: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9tdXNpY2Fsc3BsYWluaW5nLmxpYnN5bi5jb20vcnNz). It's okay. It's pretty clearly a podcast where it's some friends who are fucking around and having fun. So it's not terrible, but it's not great. And it isn't like they are churning out episodes like a machine.

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(Anonymous) 2020-11-01 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly a good chunk of the ex-fandom-turned-published-authors seem to have... iffy histories at best within their fandom pasts, there's very few who don't come off as huge bullies ready to sick their loyal rabid fans onto any dissenters.

(Anonymous) 2020-11-01 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
(Cozy werewolf anon)

as a fandom turned self published author, there's a reason I don't associate my fandom stuff with my books. One) they aren't serial numbers filed off stories and I doubt anyone in my old fandoms would CARE. And two) the overwhelming majority of "popular" ex-fandom turned published authors we hear about use really terrible marketing tactics and are downright horrible people. So, the ones you DON'T hear about, kind of end up wallowing in obscurity.

Unless they're like Naomi Novak, Seanan McGuire, and apparently Mercedes Lackey.

On the other hand, having been/being part of the INDIE author community, it's really, really... bad. The lack of understanding about copyrights, trademarks, and the purpose of reviews is overwhelmingly prevalent. (I had an entire convo with one dude about how you can't copyright titles or ideas.)

It's like watching some of the fandom issues we had five to ten or even fifteen years ago seeping into indie/trad publishing while the 20 yr old college somethings screech about sensitivity readers who didn't EXIST before 2010. And when you bring up stuff like strikethrough they go "I don't know about that... " and I'm like "obviously, YOU NEED TO." So, yeah, you get the people with posses there too over ORIGINAL works and just "I don't like you and think you ought to fail."

Then, they don't buy your books so... yeah.

TL:DR... you aren't wrong.

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(Anonymous) 2020-11-02 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
There's actually a fair number who don't have iffy histories, people just don't peg them as ex-fandomers unless they happen to have shared a fandom with them. The assholes are more prominent because people are more likely to gossip and wank about big drama than they are to consistently point out that person who behaves like a perfectly normal human being.

(Anonymous) 2020-11-02 04:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I wasn't paying super close attention to this video but I was mostly just impressed how both Patreon and YouTube took Lindsay's side (not that they shouldn't but I guess I just expect companies/organizations to drop someone like a hot potato if there is even a whiff of lawyers involved).