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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-11-01 01:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #5049 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5049 ⌋

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[personal profile] philstar22 2020-11-01 07:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I usually have that problem. I had a real hard time with Supernatural with buying into a demon possessing different people and therefore being played by different actors still being the same character. Sometimes I just couldn't see them as the same.

But for some reason I don't have that issue with Stargate. Maybe its because while the two O'Neil's do look very different, the Jacksons look very alike. And honestly, the movie, in my opinion, is just so good. I guess I just think of it as Jack's hair went white from dealing during his continued recovery from the death of his son post-movie. For some reason I can believe them being the same universe.

(Anonymous) 2020-11-01 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Same, it isn't an issue now but i was very confused at the time of watching the film.

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[personal profile] silverr 2020-11-01 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
When I finally got around to watching the movie I was very amused at how assiduously Shanks seemed to be imitating James Spader in the first season or so.

(I disliked Kurt Russell *immensely* as O'Neill, but that's just me.)

(Anonymous) 2020-11-01 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
honestly Shanks did a really good job gradually evolving Jackson from who he was at the beginning of the show to who he was at the end without losing touch with the core of the character. Stargate SG-1 had some great acting in it, in general. Their casting directors had a good eye.
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[personal profile] silverr 2020-11-01 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
They did at that. Aside from the main cast, who I loved to pieces (I include Frasier and Hammond and Katherine in that), I loved the guy who played Martouf, and Peter Williams as Apophis. He was so delightfully, imperiously, arrogant.

(Anonymous) 2020-11-02 03:53 pm (UTC)(link)
JR Bourne played Martouf.
He went on to play Chris Argent in Teen Wolf, and has a large DILF following due to it :D
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[personal profile] silverr 2020-11-02 03:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I've never watched Teen Wolf, but I can definitely see where that following would come from! I thought he had great chemistry with Amanda Tapping.

(Anonymous) 2020-11-02 07:24 am (UTC)(link)
Kurt Russell did what he could, but O'Neil was a cardboard cutout at best. Richard Dean Anderson at least had room to breathe.
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[personal profile] silverr 2020-11-02 07:30 am (UTC)(link)
True.
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[personal profile] starfleetbrat 2020-11-01 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm the opposite. I saw the movie before the show was a thing, and when the show started I hated it for a while because I loved the movie so much and it just wasn't the movie!

But then a friend kept pushing me about the show, so I gave it another try and then got hooked on the show, and now the movie is just like, a thing I still enjoy but it's a completely separate thing in my head.

(Anonymous) 2020-11-01 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
same here, for me it's right up there with the original Buffy the Vampire Slayer movie. I like both the movies and the series that came from them but they are very separate things.

(Anonymous) 2020-11-01 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Me too. I saw the original in the theater and *loved* it. I even read the books based on the original plans for sequel films that were never made.

I went into SG-1 with as open a mind as I could force myself to have, and then they renamed Daniel's wife from Sha'uri to Sha're for no reason I could ever figure out (they had the rights to the movie characters' names; Skaara and even his friend Nabeh were called by their proper names).

It took me until about season 3 to really get into the show.

(Anonymous) 2020-11-01 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I read somewhere that they changed her name because Michael Shanks couldn't say Sha'uri properly, which, lol if true
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[personal profile] silverr 2020-11-02 03:58 pm (UTC)(link)
This, I believe.
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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2020-11-01 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I get this. I was about 11 when the series premiered and got into that first. I watched the film for the first time probably a couple of years later. I do love the film but there's this small part of my brain that sections the film off and doesn't class it as the same continuity, even though it is (and at least in the earlier days the series seemed to lean into that heavily.)

(Anonymous) 2020-11-01 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I saw the movie first so I always think of SG-1 as being O'Neil(l) and Jackson Lite™. lol. This isn't to say I don't adore RDA especially. But the movie was definitely grittier.

Interesting.

(Anonymous) 2020-11-01 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm fine with different actors playing the same character, but they are always different versions of the same character. And for Stargate, it's easier than most because they have canon explanations for different versions of a character, even if most of those versions are played by the same actor, plus, in SG-1, Jack makes it a point that he's not like that other guy and that his name has two Ls (the movie version's name is O'Neil, and the TV one is O'Neill). Of course, I watched a lot of soaps, so I was pretty used to different actors stepping into the same role. I sometimes like the different versions equally just in different ways (like Daniel Jackson), but usually there are some I like, some that are passable, and some I do not like (*cough*Batman*cough*).
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Re: Interesting.

[personal profile] sparklywalls 2020-11-01 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I did like the references to two Ls in the series! Imo RDA brought a bit more sensitivity to the role, before he basically became a walking sarcasm meme (that wrecked the character for me) anyway. The sensitivity comment is no shade at Kurt Russell either, but film O'Neil/l is definitely more of a straightforward military guy.

Re: Interesting.

(Anonymous) 2020-11-02 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

I liked Kurt Russell's take too and though there is some vulnerability to his character, he is much more of a military hardass. But that plays well to his softening toward Jackson and their... comradery at the end. Actually, I was really impressed by the full character arcs both O'Neil and Jackson have in the movie.

(Anonymous) 2020-11-01 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
The movie came out when I was a teen and I really liked it, so I actually had a bit of trouble going the other way at first (not that I had a lot of opportunities to even see the show early on since it was on premium cable at first). I got past that, though.

Actually what amused me about the show at the beginning was how the Jaffa headresses went from these awesome morphing things in the movie to these thinks that just CLUNKED open. It was hilarious.
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[personal profile] silverr 2020-11-02 04:00 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah, probably a budget issue?

(Anonymous) 2020-11-02 04:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I have no illusions about a 90s-00s TV show being able to afford movie-quality CG morphing effects on the regular but the contrast was funny!

I haven't actually watched the movie in a million years. I wonder how those effects hold up?
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[personal profile] silverr 2020-11-02 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
As I recall, they actually used a few clips from the movie in the opening credits. (It's beena while, but sets as well) ... and maybe the Stargate whoosh as well?

(A lot of 90s shows SFX hold up pretty well; DS9, for example.)