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fandomsecrets2008-12-31 05:03 pm
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[ SECRET POST #726 ]
⌈ Secret Post #726 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
101.
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102.
[Young Dracula]
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103.
[Sugar Rush, Harry Potter]
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104.
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105.
[Dr. Drew Pinsky (Loveline/Celeb Rehab)]
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106.
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[Eli Stone]
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[Harry Potter, Remus/Sirius]
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111.
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113.
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114.
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115. [repeat]
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116.
[Inkheart]
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117.
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118.
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[Jaime Reyes/Blue Beetle]
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[Transformers (the Movie), Star Trek]
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[Strike Witches]
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[Moral Orel]
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[American Juniors]
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[Silent Hill]
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135.
[Zelda, Twilight Princess]
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140. [repeat]
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141.
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142.
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143.
[Kuroshitsuji]
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144.
["There she is!!"]
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145.
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146.
[Devil Summoner - Raidou Kuzunoha vs The Soulless Army]
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[Andrew Sisters, Chronicles of Narnia ]
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[Lillian Randolph, The Great Gildersleeve]
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[Gareth David-Lloyd]
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[Jonas Brothers/Nick Jonas]
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Notes:
Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 117 secrets from Secret Submission Post #103.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 3 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 - too big ], [ 1 2 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
TL;DR THAT IS NOT EXACTLY ADDRESSED AT 106
All of you are asses.
I AM NOT NECESSARILY ADDRESSING YOU, though, OP! Although, yeah, if you're trying to make people ~unhappy~ just for your own shits and giggles, you're not exactly the pillar of maturity yourself here. Just being like any other schoolyard bully. I can't tell if that's what you're doing, but what you're doing is mean-spirited, even if you think it's warranted. That aside, this message isn't really to you, nor is it to any of the people who just dislike the comic, or are offended by it, but allow that there are differences of opinion, and even if it makes YOU uncomfortable, someone ELSE can like it without that reflecting badly on them. And the message isn't even just for the Hetalia fandom! So, for everyone to ponder over:
If you judge an entire fandom because of one fan, a small number of fans, or even a group of fans, then you're being an ass.
Not everyone is exactly alike. People can like something and not be exactly the same as other people who like that same thing. This seems obvious, but GOD DAMN do people seem to forget this a lot. If you feel warranted in, or, freaking forbid, SMUG ABOUT, judging everyone from an entire fandom just because of the one who reacts badly -- the few people who are drawing shouta -- the group that's shipping something you have a personal problem with -- even if those things are justifiably off-putting, not everybody who likes the canon and is in the fandom is going to LIKE THOSE THINGS, or react that way, or whatever the hell.
As an example, even if I hated incest and thought it was absolutely horrible and people were creepy for liking it, it'd still give me no reasonable rights to judge the entire Supernatural fandom for the Wincest fans. Some of the ones they say don't ship it might secretly enjoy it! It's still unreasonable and arrogant to point at them and say "but you're in that fandom so you MIGHT" and shun them. What kind of logic is that?
To swing it back to Hetalia for a second (because this is just the most recent secret of it's kind I can remember seeing), just because one smug ass in the Hetalia fandom is going "OH GET OFF IT YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BE OFFENDED BY THIS COMIC YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO BE PC CRAI MOAR AND STFU," not everyone in the fandom shares that view. Far from it. If you pull out that example to judge the entire fandom by, you're less of an ass than the OP of that secret, but you're still pretty goddamn unreasonably douchy.
Not everyone who likes something is exactly the same. And now let's take it a step further!
If you judge a person, if you judge their value as a human being -- and yeah, that's what you're doing when you immediately judge everything about the person, or "lose all respect" -- just because they like ONE SPECIFIC PIECE OF ENTERTAINMENT, then you are not only being an ass, you are being a SHALLOW asshole and deserve to be slapped.
I'm just not going to candy-coat this one. I'm just not. I've seen it too goddamn much, more and more, and it's really starting to make me sick. For one thing, who the hell are you to judge what people are ALLOWED to like, what they MUST loathe? And who are you to assume that just because someone likes one thing that you think sucks, or dislikes something that you think is amazing, that they have ABSOLUTELY NO TASTE?
Here's a hint, guys: with how many Twilight fangirls there are in the world, including the ones who are unwilling to admit it because it's apparently fashionable to ostracise someone if they dare to think the books might NOT be the worst things ever written, AVOIDING A FANDOM BECAUSE A TWILIGHT FAN IS IN IT IS FUCKING POINTLESS. They are probably in most of YOUR fandoms too, and if you look around, you'll notice nothing's imploded and died of brain aneurysms or whatever you expected to happen.
CONTINUATION that I'm fairly sure no one will be reading at this point :|
They probably are also in some of your other fandoms. They probably love some of the things you love! And then, my god, what does that say about you?!
Absolutely nothing. That's what. Because remember: personal fucking taste. You're not going to die or have yourselves sullied in any way by being associated by a heathen who doesn't share your every like and dislike. You're not going to drop in IQ points. And someone isn't a bad or stupid person just because they think about things differently than you do.
It's pointless. It's irritating. It's idiotic and assholish, and you know what else it is? It's really fucking insulting. It's arrogant and insulting for you to think that you can put someone in a nice, neat, labelled little box, that you can judge their entire value as a human being, just because of a piece of ENTERTAINMENT they enjoy. I don't care if this is a cartoon, a TV show, a movie, a book, an anime, a video game, a song or album or band or anything. I don't care if this is a series or an OTP. If you're trying to sum up another person just because of something that was made expressly for people TO enjoy, that happens to either WORK FOR THEM OR NOT, then that completely belittles the person in question. You've basically summed up someone with a life, a family, dreams, hopes, ideals, a past and present and future, looked at a piece of entertainment that they happen to enjoy or not, and decided that the rest of that doesn't matter at all.
People come up with enough ways to hate each other for stupid goddamn reasons. Maybe we should all try thinking a little bit before proceeding along with, not only another one, but an EXCEEDINGLY FUCKING STUPID one at that.
Again, this is not directed at you, OP. Your secret is irritating and pretty immature, but you know what? You're probably not an immature person. People can do immature things without being immature people. And you can be an immature person without being a bad person. A person can be immature, a jerk, a bitch, an asshole, whatever about something, and not be that kind of person, and not be a bad person. I guess that's kind of part of my point here.
This isn't addressing you. This is addressing all of the people who thoughtlessly insult not only other people, but their OWN INTELLIGENCE, by deciding to judge a person's entire worth based on -- of all fucking things in this world -- fandom. Come up with better reasons to hate someone, if you feel the need to hate. Or just acknowledge that different people enjoy different things and continue on with your life.
I'd also like to offer an apology, for my comments a few days ago on one of the Hetalia-fandom-rant secrets. I DID overreact, I WAS bitchy, I WAS out of line. It shouldn't have bothered me as much as it did, but I was irritated and blew up. That wasn't fair. Anyone who wants to continue to judge me for that, fine; anyone who wants to judge me and hate me for THIS comment, that's fine too. Anyone who wants to judge my fandoms for either of the above, you might want to ask for a list and hope nothing you love's on it, because goddamn I'm in a lot of fandoms. XD; But seriously: if you're going to hate and judge, you're going to do that anyway without anything talking you out of it, so go ahead. It's not worth worrying anymore -- and even if you do that, odds are still good that you're not a bad person, so. No judgement in return. Fandom and the Internet is way too ridiculous to start getting offended and vitriolic over.
I just hope a few people think.
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(Anonymous) 2009-01-02 07:02 am (UTC)(link);3; ♥
*hugs you*
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Is it obvious that this has been bugging me for a while now? XD;
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(Anonymous) 2009-01-02 07:57 am (UTC)(link)...Someone should start a betting pool on how long it'll take everyone to get bored with this.
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(Anonymous) 2009-01-02 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)Maybe the comm just needs a reflux of Death Note/Doctor Who/etc secrets to remind it what F!S REALLY cares about.