[ SECRET POST #5066 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5066 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Comments

[fscom]

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[sparklywalls]

I won't lie, "everyone lives in the tower!" fic was my favourite era of this fandom but after subsequent films it's very much AU now. So I understand your frustration that people aren't tagging it.

I would also (personally) argue the moment has passed for those sorts of fic anyway.

As for the comics-etc mash-ups. I don't mind if people want to use details from other formats but it's when people accept something from the comics as MCU canon (even if it isn't) and they get mardy at anyone who doesn't include that detail in their fic. I can't stand that. Having said, that...people insisting a fandom-wide headcanon is canon are worse.

[ibbity]

It was my favorite era too, there was an abundance of cute and funny fan art and the fandom in general was way more silly and relaxed. At least where I was hanging out it was. There was one artist, geothebio iirc, who used to make funny lil comics about the team. I loved her stuff.

[feotakahari]

I mean, it’s comics. Canon itself isn’t canon-compliant half the time.

[(Anonymous)]

the secret is talking about the mcu, which is not the comics, and the op's frustrations are that comic-canon is being applied to mcu fic like it's canon for that 'verse when it's not.

[(Anonymous)]

MCU affects comics canon and comics canon affects the MCU. They are unfortunately intertwined.

[(Anonymous)]

There's nothing intrinsically wrong with fans mixing up MCU material, comic material, and fanon, any more than there would be with a fan combining material from two different runs from a comic.

It is annoying from a tagging point of view, though, I admit that.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think a writer adding in comic-canon to a fic needs to strictly label it as as AU, certainly if it's something taken for background filler for a character, that the MCU hasn't touched on, and not a plot-point. But I'll agree that people who are writing 'and they all live in Stark Tower' fic(or something else that's blatantly contradictory from the comics to MCU) for current canon should be tagging that with canon-divergence AU since it's nowhere close to canon anymore.

[(Anonymous)]

Really? I'm actually genuinely surprised by that. I'm not much of a fan of Marvel, but I've always thought that the movies vs. comics were kept completely separate, sort of like movie vs. books. They're like not similar at all.

I've seen all the different timelines in comics in a mashup, (since not even the comics themselves know what they're referencing most of the time) but usually not with the live-action/unique movies.

[(Anonymous)]

The thing is, there was so much fanfic written between movies, either drawing from the comics (e.g. deaf Hawkeye), or from the fandom's general desires (e.g. everyone staying in the tower and actually acting like friends for more than five minutes at a stretch), that particular idea became very popular and very well rooted in the fandom.
Just because canon Jossed these things, doesn't mean fandom will let go. I can't say I blame them - I stopped giving a shit about most of the MCU like two years ago.

[51stcenturyfox]

I've got news for you; they're not fuckin' in canon, either! ;)

I'm guilty of "everybody lives in the tower" MCU fic, but Tony is shown onscreen with blueprints featuring the other Avengers' symbols, so I don't think this is an asspull.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/noradominick/details-from-marvel-movies-you-never-noticed

[kallanda_lee]

Honestly things like "they live in Avengers Tower now to me isn't even so much a comic crossover, as an excuse to put them in the same place, and it's no more unrealistic than Steve banging Bucky.

I think that people who also read the comics slip these things in, but it shouldn't make it incomprehensible to film fans only, I think. I think I've only read a handful of fics where that was not the case.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, the everyone lives together is a bit frustrating. But for some characters (*coughHawkeyecough*) you're not going to be able to find a lot of canon characterizations. His canon characterization is pretty flat and boring, so people prefer to take the one that comes from the Hawkeye comics. Also people are pissed they didn't make his hearing thing obvious/even mention it.

[(Anonymous)]

MCU Hawkeye: Boring, boring, boring, boring, serial killer and somehow still boring.

[(Anonymous)]

To be fair, everyone THOUGHT they'd all be living in the tower. In the comics they usually all live in a mansion together with an actual butler named Jarvis.

I think a lot of comic book knowledge is brought in by the fans to spackle over the cracks of the MCU because... some of the characterization is inconsistent between movies or generally lacking. But, like, Stony was brought over wholesale and most of Fandom!Clint comes from Fraction's run and I totally feel ya if you actually want fic of what happened in the movies. I much prefer the comics, so I have the opposite problem.

I'm sorry no one engaged with your work, that's a bummer.

[(Anonymous)]

"Everyone lives together in Avengers Tower" isn't canon in any universe. Either they live together in Avengers Mansion, or they don't live together and there's Avengers Tower which is Tony's. Even in Ultimates where they had a tower and it was Avengers tower, most of them didn't live there. But let's not go into Ultimates canon because it's stupid, mean-spirited and has canon Wanda/Pietro.

[(Anonymous)]

Ultimates was the one with Tony's sentient brain tumor, right?

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Maybe? It was definitely the one where Tony was blue as a child.